Suppressor, Second Amendment bills hearing scheduled!

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Re: Suppressor, Second Amendment bills hearing scheduled!

Postby striped1 on Mon May 04, 2015 5:55 pm

We need to keep the pressure on and make sure this becomes law.
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Re: Suppressor, Second Amendment bills hearing scheduled!

Postby Kelor on Mon May 04, 2015 6:57 pm

shooter115 wrote:
Dakotared wrote:I was talking to Rep. Brian Johnson this weekend and he mad it sound like the Republicans will pull the silencer part out of the bill to get the part about giving felons their voting rights back pulled out.

Why the hell would they do that? I'd have to go back and count votes, but don't we already have a veto-proof majority?


Because they're spineless politicians?
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Re: Suppressor, Second Amendment bills hearing scheduled!

Postby striped1 on Mon May 04, 2015 7:52 pm

CALL THEM ALL:

Authors of MN HF 1434
House-
Representative Mark Anderson (R) District: 09A
651-296-4293 or 800-914-3172
rep.mark.anderson@house.mn
Legislative Assistant: Kelly Johnson 651-296-9471

Representative David Dill (DFL) District: 03A
651-296-2190 or 800-339-0466
rep.david.dill@house.mn
Legislative Assistant: Joan Harrison 651-296-2585

Representative Tony Cornish (R) District: 23B
651-296-4240 or 800-704-8525
rep.tony.cornish@house.mn
Legislative Assistant: Simon Gottlieb 651-296-5356

Representative Jason Metsa (DFL) District: 06B
651-296-0170 or 888-682-3205
rep.jason.metsa@house.mn
Legislative Assistant: Sue Scott 651-296-8827

Representative Chris Swedzinski (R) District: 16A
651-296-5374 or 888-234-1242
rep.chris.swedzinski@house.mn
Legislative Assistant: Leah Patton 651-296-9895

Representative Jason Rarick (R) District: 11B
651-296-0518
rep.jason.rarick@house.mn
Legislative Assistant: Josh Anderson 651-296-3889

Representative Tom Anzelc (DFL) District: 05B
651-296-4936 or 800-336-9124
rep.tom.anzelc@house.mn
Legislative Assistant: Sue Scott 651-296-8827

Representative Dan Fabian (R) District: 01A
651-296-9635 or 888-727-0979, Fax: 651-296-5378
rep.dan.fabian@house.mn
Legislative Assistant: Kalyn Schroeder 651-296-5336

Representative Bob Gunther (R) District: 23A
651-296-3240 or 800-684-4598
rep.bob.gunther@house.mn
Legislative Assistant: Rebecca Meade 651-296-8871

Representative Dave Baker (R) District: 17B
651-296-6206
rep.dave.baker@house.mn
Legislative Assistant: Bethany Dorobiala 651-296-8187

Representative Mary Franson (R) District: 08B
651-296-3201 or 800-709-0796
rep.mary.franson@house.mn
Legislative Assistant: Kyle Berndt 651-296-3367

Representative Jim Newberger (R) District: 15B
651-296-2451 or 800-706-9962
rep.jim.newberger@house.mn
Legislative Assistant: Pat Kaluza 651-297-8137

Representative Peggy Scott (R) District: 35B
651-296-4231
rep.peggy.scott@house.mn
Legislative Assistant: Alex Pouliot 651-296-5813

Representative Tony Albright (R) District: 55B
651-296-5185
rep.tony.albright@house.mn
Legislative Assistant: Kaley Taffe 651-296-9183

Representative Jim Nash (R) District: 47A
651-296-4282
rep.jim.nash@house.mn
Legislative Assistant: Natalie Cecchini 651-296-5999

Representative Jeff Howe (R) District: 13A
651-296-4373 or 800-947-8264
rep.jeff.howe@house.mn
Legislative Assistant: Bryan Zadalis 651-296-8857

Representative Steve Drazkowski (R) District: 21B
651-296-2273
rep.steve.drazkowski@house.mn
Legislative Assistant: Grant Erickson 651-296-9710

Representative Glenn Gruenhagen (R) District: 18B
651-296-4229 or 800-341-0510
rep.glenn.gruenhagen@house.mn
Legislative Assistant: Jonathan Fortner 651-296-5992

Representative Eric Lucero (R) District: 30B
651-296-1534
rep.eric.lucero@house.mn
Legislative Assistant: Kyle Berndt 651-296-3367

Representative Brian Johnson (R) District: 32A
651-296-4346 or 800-341-5897
rep.brian.johnson@house.mn
Legislative Assistant: Tom Brennan 651-296-5398

Representative Joe Schomacker (R) District: 22A
651-296-5505 or 888-727-6307
rep.joe.schomacker@house.mn
Legislative Assistant: Nick Lunneborg 651-296-5998

Representative Bob Loonan (R) District: 55A
651-296-8872
rep.bob.loonan@house.mn
Legislative Assistant: Chelsea Peter 651-296-9302

Representative Jeanne Poppe (DFL) District: 27B
651-296-4193 or 888-682-3180
rep.jeanne.poppe@house.mn
Legislative Assistant: Kathy Anderson 651-296-3806
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Re: Suppressor, Second Amendment bills hearing scheduled!

Postby striped1 on Mon May 04, 2015 7:53 pm

AND THESE:

Keep the pressure on.

Authors of MN SF1435
Senate-
Senator Paul E. Gazelka (R) District 09
Assistant Minority Leader
(651) 296-4875
sen.paul.gazelka@senate.mn
Legislative Assistant: Kenneth Swecker (651) 296-5774

Senator David J. Tomassoni (DFL) District 06
(651) 296-8017
http://www.senate.leg.state.mn.us/membe ... d=1064&ls=
Legislative Assistant: Laura Bakk (651) 296-8017

Senator Lyle Koenen (DFL) District 17
Majority Whip
(651) 296-5094
sen.lyle.koenen@senate.mn
Legislative Assistant: Ali Holzman (651) 296-5094

Senator LeRoy A. Stumpf (DFL) District 01
(651) 296-8660
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Legislative Assistant: Jeri Wenzel (651) 296-8660
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Re: Suppressor, Second Amendment bills hearing scheduled!

Postby Bearcatrp on Mon May 04, 2015 8:31 pm

Dakotared wrote:I was talking to Rep. Brian Johnson this weekend and he mad it sound like the Republicans will pull the silencer part out of the bill to get the part about giving felons their voting rights back pulled out.

WTF? How friggin stupid is that? With that being just mentioned tells me us minnesotans are screwed again due to the two step political shuffle. I just shake my head when I hear stupid crap like this.
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Re: Suppressor, Second Amendment bills hearing scheduled!

Postby Dakotared on Tue May 05, 2015 10:19 am

Kelor wrote:
shooter115 wrote:
Dakotared wrote:I was talking to Rep. Brian Johnson this weekend and he mad it sound like the Republicans will pull the silencer part out of the bill to get the part about giving felons their voting rights back pulled out.

Why the hell would they do that? I'd have to go back and count votes, but don't we already have a veto-proof majority?


Because they're spineless politicians?


I am pretty sure this one nails it on the head!
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Re: Suppressor, Second Amendment bills hearing scheduled!

Postby Andrew Rothman on Tue May 05, 2015 2:32 pm

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I work in IT and haven't seen any viruses directly caused by FB. The ads can sometimes problematic, but ads on any site can have that problem. I do agree that FB is worthless, but for better or worse GOCRA uses it for daily communication. If you want to know what's going on, ya gotta use it. Don't need to login though.... Spin up a Linux VM if you're paranoid. :ugeek:


GOCRA uses emails for important communication. Facebook is a poor substitute. If you're not signed up at [url]gocra.mn/join[/url], you're missing a lot of the info.
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Re: Suppressor, Second Amendment bills hearing scheduled!

Postby Andrew Rothman on Tue May 05, 2015 2:43 pm

striped1 wrote:CALL THEM ALL:


No, please don't. These are our allies, who do NOT need convincing.
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Re: Suppressor, Second Amendment bills hearing scheduled!

Postby striped1 on Tue May 05, 2015 2:59 pm

If they are willing to offer up this to get rid of felon voting rights restoration then they are not our friends. They need to know this.
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Re: Suppressor, Second Amendment bills hearing scheduled!

Postby BigBlue on Tue May 05, 2015 3:45 pm

Please listen to Andrew's guidance on this. He's plugged into things quite well there.
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Re: Suppressor, Second Amendment bills hearing scheduled!

Postby Andrew Rothman on Tue May 05, 2015 3:48 pm

The authors are not on the conference committee, nor part of House leadership.
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Re: Suppressor, Second Amendment bills hearing scheduled!

Postby striped1 on Tue May 05, 2015 4:05 pm

respectfully, they don't need to be. Call them and let them put pressure on their leadership. Call the leadership as well. Call every last one of them. They all need to know we won't forget if they allow this to be bargained away. If they allow this to be bargained away, they are not our friends.
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Re: Suppressor, Second Amendment bills hearing scheduled!

Postby Hmac on Tue May 05, 2015 4:44 pm

shooter115 wrote:
Dakotared wrote:I was talking to Rep. Brian Johnson this weekend and he mad it sound like the Republicans will pull the silencer part out of the bill to get the part about giving felons their voting rights back pulled out.

Why the hell would they do that? I'd have to go back and count votes, but don't we already have a veto-proof majority?
They would do that to save the other bills in the Omnibus package if it turns out Dayton is really serious. I don't think they have the votes to override.

If Brian Johnson told you that, sounds like maybe the republicans have already blinked. Hope I'm wrong...made my calls, wrote emails, called Dayton, sent another $25 to GOCRA, but I suspect the suppressor bill is toast.
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Re: Suppressor, Second Amendment bills hearing scheduled!

Postby jshuberg on Tue May 05, 2015 6:23 pm

striped1 wrote:respectfully, they don't need to be. Call them and let them put pressure on their leadership. Call the leadership as well. Call every last one of them. They all need to know we won't forget if they allow this to be bargained away. If they allow this to be bargained away, they are not our friends.

You're arguing with the President of GOCRA on what is needed for the passage of GOCRA sponsored bills. Perhaps he knows a bit more than you do on what is *actually* happening at the capitol.

There are times to call your representatives, and there are times not to. Calling gun friendly representatives and Senators and getting all angry at them because of here-say and internet rumors is just plain stupid, and doesn't do us any favors.

There is a very delicate chess game being played right now. It doesn't help when someone unfamiliar with the game stumbles into the room, and starts moving pieces around in an attempt to "help". If you truly want to help, follow Andrew's advice.
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Re: Suppressor, Second Amendment bills hearing scheduled!

Postby jshuberg on Tue May 05, 2015 6:41 pm

Hmac wrote:If Brian Johnson told you that, sounds like maybe the republicans have already blinked. Hope I'm wrong...made my calls, wrote emails, called Dayton, sent another $25 to GOCRA, but I suspect the suppressor bill is toast.

The suppressor provision was added to both omnibus bills with overwhelming majorities, and both omnibus bills passed their respective houses with overwhelming majorities. This is simply *not* a partisan issue that the Dems want to kill. Could there be political shenanigans in conference committee? Possibly, but unlikely with the gun stuff. There simply isn't any significant opposition to any of the pro-gun policy changes - except that Gov Dayton has threatened a veto. He's the one we need to be focused on.

Are there Republicans who would be willing to throw out suppressors (or anything else) to get rid of the restoration of voting rights for felons on probation or parole? Yes, I'm sure there are. The real question is, is the leadership in the Senate willing to take felon voting rights out of the bill if the Republicans sacrifice suppressors? Every indication is simply no. Killing suppressors is simply not important to them, as evidenced by the collective voting record of their caucus. If the Dems decide to pull voting for felons, it's going to be in exchange for something that they actually care about. Suppressors just aint it.

Right now the only person that needs to be flooded with calls is Gov Dayton.
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