Where to make transfer?

[srs]

With apologies in advance on likely repeating a question (I've searched for an hour prior to posting; I'm sure someone will point out the right place for me to have looked)....

I have a buyer for a gun I own. Is there a recommended safe place to make the exchange?

Thanks!

[Hmac]

I have always used the indoor range at Fleet Farm. They've been amenable and let the buyer and me use their classroom. Additional bonus is that the buyer can actually shoot the gun if he wishes.

[photogpat]

With apologies in advance on likely repeating a question (I've searched for an hour prior to posting; I'm sure someone will point out the right place for me to have looked)....

I have a buyer for a gun I own. Is there a recommended safe place to make the exchange?

Thanks!

Where are you located?

[LarryFlew]

Public parking lot. I typically pick something between the two. Menards, Target, Wally etc. Outskirts of the lot of course.

[farmerj]

Public parking in a not directly conspicuous place. The last time I did that, I even called the local dispatch to inform them so someone wouldn't freak out and call in a MWG complaint.

[Squib Joe]

I have always used the indoor range at Fleet Farm. They've been amenable and let the buyer and me use their classroom. Additional bonus is that the buyer can actually shoot the gun if he wishes.

I doubt they would want the ATF to catch wind of this, because as I've stated before like a broken record - it is completely illegal for all parties involved.

I used to suggest getting one of those free conference rooms at Starbucks until they got all froggy on guns

[srs]

Thanks for the suggestions. I'm in St. Louis Park. I had a vague (and apparently mistaken) recollection that some police departments had establishes zones for consummating buy/sell transactions (not necessarily firearms).

[farmerj]

I have heard of similar safe zones being done with some of the attacks and robberies from Craigslist.


http://m.startribune.com/selling-that-s ... 315161861/

[armedwalleye]

Thanks for the suggestions. I'm in St. Louis Park. I had a vague (and apparently mistaken) recollection that some police departments had establishes zones for consummating buy/sell transactions (not necessarily firearms).

No entirely mistaken. The Anoka county Sheriffs office on Round Lake Blvd has such a location.

[Holland&Holland]

I have always used the indoor range at Fleet Farm. They've been amenable and let the buyer and me use their classroom. Additional bonus is that the buyer can actually shoot the gun if he wishes.

I doubt they would want the ATF to catch wind of this, because as I've stated before like a broken record - it is completely illegal for all parties involved.

I used to suggest getting one of those free conference rooms at Starbucks until they got all froggy on guns

All parties?

[Hmac]

I have always used the indoor range at Fleet Farm. They've been amenable and let the buyer and me use their classroom. Additional bonus is that the buyer can actually shoot the gun if he wishes.

I doubt they would want the ATF to catch wind of this, because as I've stated before like a broken record - it is completely illegal for all parties involved.

I used to suggest getting one of those free conference rooms at Starbucks until they got all froggy on guns

Interesting. How is it illegal?

[andrewP]

Interesting. How is it illegal?

I'm guessing it has something to do with being on the premises of an FFL. Probably any transfers that occur there are supposed to go through the FFL? (IANAL, etc, etc)

[Hmac]

Interesting. How is it illegal?

I'm guessing it has something to do with being on the premises of an FFL. Probably any transfers that occur there are supposed to go through the FFL? (IANAL, etc, etc)

Where is that written? As near as I can tell, it only applies if the FFL is actually involved in the sale (conducts background check for the private party seller to a private-party buyer). The ATF has procedures and open letters to FFLs as to how to be involved in a private-party sale, but I don't see any prohibition against such private transaction taking place on the FFL's premises. And even if there was, you just exchange the money/bill-of-sale in the parking lot on your way out.

[Squib Joe]

I have always used the indoor range at Fleet Farm. They've been amenable and let the buyer and me use their classroom. Additional bonus is that the buyer can actually shoot the gun if he wishes.

I doubt they would want the ATF to catch wind of this, because as I've stated before like a broken record - it is completely illegal for all parties involved.

I used to suggest getting one of those free conference rooms at Starbucks until they got all froggy on guns

All parties?

The premises listed on a FFL has special regulations, including that the acquisition, disposition, and most importantly the transfer of all firearms be recorded under penalty of law. Firearms owned by the business, owned by customers, owned by employees - all of them fall under the purview of the law. In addition, if a private party transfer takes place on property owned by the FFL, then the FFL has (knowingly or not) facilitated the transfer by allowing use of the property for the transfer. All parties involved could then be found guilty of making a firearm transfer without proper recordkeeping and background check requirements required by a FFL facilitated transfer (ATF Proc. 2013-1). The dealer, of course, would probably be the only one prosecuted depending on the circumstances.

[Hmac]

The premises listed on a FFL has special regulations, including that the acquisition, disposition, and most importantly the transfer of all firearms be recorded under penalty of law. Firearms owned by the business, owned by customers, owned by employees - all of them fall under the purview of the law. In addition, if a private party transfer takes place on property owned by the FFL, then the FFL has (knowingly or not) facilitated the transfer by allowing use of the property for the transfer. All parties involved could then be found guilty of making a firearm transfer without proper recordkeeping and background check requirements required by a FFL facilitated transfer (ATF Proc. 2013-1). The dealer, of course, would probably be the only one prosecuted depending on the circumstances.

Interesting. Such a private party sale would not be an FFL-facilitated transfer since the FFL isn't conducting a background check. It sounds like you're saying that just carrying a gun into an FFL's premises makes your gun his responsibility. But I'm no expert and am prepared to be proven wrong.

Can you cite your source for the special regulations for the premises listed on the FFL?