My bad, I was late to the party.Sorcerer wrote:My reading comprehension may be off but the article appears to be almost 10 years old.
I sorta' wish there were some way to require gun owners to undergo whatever level of training might be said to be reasonable that did NOT have denial of the right to own and carry as the penalty for failure or non-compliance. In a previous thread I speculated on the possibility of making firearms training a modern version of the militia muster, but no one liked the idea of any requirements whatsoever.crbutler wrote:The question of training in order to exercise a right is interesting. I think most agree that training is a good idea. How much is “reasonable”? How reasonable is it to mandate such an amount of training with strict requirements that makes it impossible for the average man on the street to pass it?
Other than maybe a "Hogan's Alley" shoot/don't shoot test, I doubt most LEOs train better than CCWs.crbutler wrote:Look at LEO training with weapons. It may be more than the CCW crowd are required to have, but after seeing lots of LEO’s shoot, it certainly isn’t that much more, yet they get a lot more latitude than the rest of us.
Imagine if to get a driver's license, instead of the DMV's behind the wheel exam you instead had to pay for and pass a for-profit driving instruction class.crbutler wrote:Every one knows there are restrictions on rights; the real point is what are reasonable ones?
Lumpy wrote:Imagine if to get a driver's license, instead of the DMV's behind the wheel exam you instead had to pay for and pass a for-profit driving instruction class.crbutler wrote:Every one knows there are restrictions on rights; the real point is what are reasonable ones?
jdege wrote:I was shooting at Burnsville, once, practicing slow fire at 25 yards.
I'd loaded my mags alternating snap caps and live rounds. I'd dry fire a few times, then drop the round and fire live.
I'd just hung a clean target and loaded a new mag when two cops took up the lanes on either side of me.
They hung their targets at 7 yards and proceeded to rapid-fire.
I went through two mags, ten snap caps and ten live rounds. In that time the cops must have gone through 200 rounds each.
I retrieved my target and found I'd done better than I'd expected. I'd put 8 rounds in the black and 11 in the white.
I'd picked up 9 rounds from the guys in the next lanes.
jdege wrote:I was shooting at Burnsville, once, practicing slow fire at 25 yards.
I'd loaded my mags alternating snap caps and live rounds. I'd dry fire a few times, then drop the round and fire live.
I'd just hung a clean target and loaded a new mag when two cops took up the lanes on either side of me.
They hung their targets at 7 yards and proceeded to rapid-fire.
I went through two mags, ten snap caps and ten live rounds. In that time the cops must have gone through 200 rounds each.
I retrieved my target and found I'd done better than I'd expected. I'd put 8 rounds in the black and 11 in the white.
I'd picked up 9 rounds from the guys in the next lanes.
Lumpy wrote:My bad, I was late to the party.Sorcerer wrote:My reading comprehension may be off but the article appears to be almost 10 years old.I sorta' wish there were some way to require gun owners to undergo whatever level of training might be said to be reasonable that did NOT have denial of the right to own and carry as the penalty for failure or non-compliance. In a previous thread I speculated on the possibility of making firearms training a modern version of the militia muster, but no one liked the idea of any requirements whatsoever.crbutler wrote:The question of training in order to exercise a right is interesting. I think most agree that training is a good idea. How much is “reasonable”? How reasonable is it to mandate such an amount of training with strict requirements that makes it impossible for the average man on the street to pass it?Other than maybe a "Hogan's Alley" shoot/don't shoot test, I doubt most LEOs train better than CCWs.crbutler wrote:Look at LEO training with weapons. It may be more than the CCW crowd are required to have, but after seeing lots of LEO’s shoot, it certainly isn’t that much more, yet they get a lot more latitude than the rest of us.Imagine if to get a driver's license, instead of the DMV's behind the wheel exam you instead had to pay for and pass a for-profit driving instruction class.crbutler wrote:Every one knows there are restrictions on rights; the real point is what are reasonable ones?
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