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Anyone got an AR in .30 Remington AR? I read about it in the March issue of American Rifleman, and it looks pretty neat. Lots of options for handloaders. Perfect modern day deer gun?

Dude, you know better. 7mm rem mag is minimum for MN whitetall. Come on.

Ultimately, 'course, it's bound by the constraints of the .223 OAL. So for those 600yd one-shot-kill's, 7mm is still king!

IIRC, it used the .450 magazine ... only 5rd, 'er somethin' like that. Not that ya'd need more ... but at that point, who cares if it's an AR?

I got a 6.8, myself ... nice 'n light ... frankly, I got a LOT better rifles to take into the woods.

For someone lookin' for a new deer rifle ... for .30-30 ballistics, I'd probly get a .30-30 ... with the LeverEvolution, I don't know know that the .30 AR could still keep up?

IIRC, yer lookin' at $1,100+ for one of them. That'd otherwise buy TWO very nice deer rifles. And I've got a Remington .223 ... the trigger was ridiculous ... so figure at least 'nother $150 'fore it'd shoot as well as a Marlin.

I read the article too and it looks pretty neat but it struck me more of an answer looking for a question. But the cool new thing seems to be make an upper for every everything so why not? I even came across a belt fed 12ga upper on YT.

ahrens wrote:For someone lookin' for a new deer rifle ... for .30-30 ballistics, I'd probly get a .30-30 ... with the LeverEvolution, I don't know know that the .30 AR could still keep up?

.30RAR will beat the piss out of 30/30. .30 RAR was built to 95% duplicate standard .308. 165 grain bullets at 2700 FPS.

.30/.221 Fireball, .30 AAC Blackout, .300 Whisper, or whatever else they are calling it today will duplicate .30/30 ballistics (and do 90% of what Leverevolution ammo does), and you can stuff 30 of those puppies in a standard AR-15 mag.

Norsesmithy wrote:

ahrens wrote:For someone lookin' for a new deer rifle ... for .30-30 ballistics, I'd probly get a .30-30 ... with the LeverEvolution, I don't know know that the .30 AR could still keep up?

.30RAR will beat the piss out of 30/30. .30 RAR was built to 95% duplicate standard .308. 165 grain bullets at 2700 FPS.

.30/.221 Fireball, .30 AAC Blackout, .300 Whisper, or whatever else they are calling it today will duplicate .30/30 ballistics (and do 90% of what Leverevolution ammo does), and you can stuff 30 of those puppies in a standard AR-15 mag.

I stand corrected ...

Jest looked up on Hodgdon's ...

.30 AR 160gr FTX max. 2,585
.30-30 160gr FTX max. 2,389

Almost 200fps more ... not bad.

Outta curiosity, I looked up .308 MX ...

.308 MX 160gr FTX max. 2,658

Not sure 'bout .308 MX's longevity ... or .30 AR's, for that matter.

Is this different than .30 Remington? I couldn't find any of that for my grandpa's old pump deer rifle, so I bought the dies and had goalie load me up a couple hundred rounds.

Heffay wrote:Is this different than .30 Remington? I couldn't find any of that for my grandpa's old pump deer rifle, so I bought the dies and had goalie load me up a couple hundred rounds.

This is not the same.