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Dealings with police

PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 3:00 pm
by Punisher102
ok guys, This is third party information, but I gotta ask anyway. What kind of recourse does a friend of mine son have after he was pulled over searched.

Here is what happened thats has been told to me.

The kid who has a permit to carry was pulled over in his car (reason unknown)
The cop asked for DL. As the kid pulled his license out, the cop saw the permit to carry.
The cop asked if he had the gun with him, the kid said no, its at home.
The cop pulls the kid form the car, hand cuffs him, makes him have a seat in the back of the squad car, then proceeds to search the car. I am assuming a gun but really for what was not relayed to me.

Does this kid have any recourse for harassment or unlawful detention? Do the police have the right to search a car during a traffic stop? (Do we grant them this right for the privilege of a MN drivers license)

Re: Dealings with police

PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 3:20 pm
by floydster
Well, there has to be more to this story for the officer to do that--just sayin.

Smokeyloads

Re: Dealings with police

PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 3:24 pm
by bstrawse
I would stop posting about it and go visit a reputable attorney.

Not sure where this happened, but in the Twin Cities Metro area, I would recommend Marc Berris - http://www.berrislaw.com/berris.html

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Re: Dealings with police

PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 3:27 pm
by Punisher102
floydster wrote:Well, there has to be more to this story for the officer to do that--just sayin.

Smokeyloads


Like I said, I do not know the whole story, so there could be more, I just dont know.

Re: Dealings with police

PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 3:31 pm
by Punisher102
bstrawse wrote:I would stop posting about it and go visit a reputable attorney.

Not sure where this happened, but in the Twin Cities Metro area, I would recommend Marc Berris - http://www.berrislaw.com/berris.html

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I am gonna assume that it was in the TC metro area, they live south of the river.

why stop posting about it? I simply asked a question for something that is totally hearsay..

and as far as I know, neither my friend or his son is part of this forum.

Re: Dealings with police

PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 3:43 pm
by LarryP
nobody Can give you answers without knowing what really took place.


Punisher102 wrote:
floydster wrote:Well, there has to be more to this story for the officer to do that--just sayin.

Smokeyloads


Like I said, I do not know the whole story, so there could be more, I just dont know.

Re: Dealings with police

PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:36 pm
by LarryFlew
Hard to say what the kid might have said and it only takes an OK at the wrong time etc. Without the COMPLETE story there is no way to tell. Either way a good lawyer is the ONLY recourse.

Re: Dealings with police

PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:56 pm
by bstrawse
Punisher102 wrote:Does this kid have any recourse for harassment or unlawful detention? Do the police have the right to search a car during a traffic stop? (Do we grant them this right for the privilege of a MN drivers license)


Does he? Possibly. Possibly not. Depends on the facts of the story.

Police can search without a warrant in some circumstances. Why did the officer search the car?

Again, my advice is to not post about it here and seek advice from a reputable attorney.

In most of these cases, I've found that we're not getting the whole story.... and asking for advice from a bunch of non-lawyers is probably not the best route to go ;)
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Re: Dealings with police

PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:58 pm
by jgalt
bstrawse wrote:.... and asking for advice from a bunch of non-lawyers is probably not the best route to go ;)


C'mon now, you know full well that approximately 96.4% 46.4% of the Interwebs are filled with exactly that... 8-)

I had to change the est. % as soon as I remembered that about 1/2 of the Interwebs are actually porn...

Re: Dealings with police

PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:59 pm
by bstrawse
jgalt wrote:
bstrawse wrote:.... and asking for advice from a bunch of non-lawyers is probably not the best route to go ;)


C'mon now, you know full well that approximately 96.4% of the Interwebs are filled with exactly that... 8-)


I'm sure someone has some Malarkey they could throw in here.
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Re: Dealings with police

PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:19 pm
by tt3
bstrawse wrote:I'm sure someone has some Malarkey they could throw in here.
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ISWYDT
8-)

Re: Dealings with police

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:43 am
by tman
bstrawse wrote:I'm sure someone has some Malarkey they could throw in here.
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I, for once, have NOTHING to add. :lol:

Re: Dealings with police

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:29 am
by JoeH
Punisher102 wrote:Does this kid have any recourse for harassment or unlawful detention?



Did the cop find anything? Is he being charged? If not, maybe he should forget about the incident and move on with his life.

Re: Dealings with police

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:37 am
by Thunder71
JoeH wrote:
Punisher102 wrote:Does this kid have any recourse for harassment or unlawful detention?



Did the cop find anything? Is he being charged? If not, maybe he should forget about the incident and move on with his life.


Shhh... just bend over, it'll only hurt for a second and when it's over, it was all just a bad dream... there, that wasn't so bad now, was it.

Re: Dealings with police

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:25 am
by Xscream
It has been alluded to but not outright said.

If a cop wants to search your car, they can and will - legally (in 99.9% of the cases). They are given discretion in a lot of cases, and if in their opinion the criteria was met, they can search. If the issue is pushed, there is no way to prove them wrong and its the kids word against the cops. Unless the cop has a past "history", it'll likely go no where and you are out the time and money.

I'm sure there is more to the story, but if he isn't being charged then I'd go on with his life and not worry about it.