Gun Control vs. Gun Safety?

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Gun Control vs. Gun Safety?

Postby elroy on Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:27 am

Has anyone else noticed that the media has almost overnight changed the phrase "Gun Control" to "Gun Safety"?

This is actually a brilliant marketing move. After all, even those who are against "Gun Control" would have a hard time saying that "Gun Safety" is a bad thing.

Please be aware of this and correct people when they use this dis-ingenuous term.
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Re: Gun Control vs. Gun Safety?

Postby XDM45 on Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:55 am

elroy wrote:Has anyone else noticed that the media has almost overnight changed the phrase "Gun Control" to "Gun Safety"?

This is actually a brilliant marketing move. After all, even those who are against "Gun Control" would have a hard time saying that "Gun Safety" is a bad thing.

Please be aware of this and correct people when they use this dis-ingenuous term.


I haven't noticed that, but thanks for the heads up. I'll keep an ear out and correct people. Granted, it's a much more important issue than computers are, but it's not the only time people do things like that and need to be corrected... many people think the World Wide Web *IS* "The Internet" and it's not....not even close. It's one small part of it.
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Re: Gun Control vs. Gun Safety?

Postby elroy on Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:17 am

This reminds of how liberals started calling themselves "progressives" back when the country was a little more conservative and "liberal" had a more wide-spread negative connotation.
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Re: Gun Control vs. Gun Safety?

Postby photogpat on Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:19 am

This isn't unlike how the Violence Policy Center changed their name from "Handgun Control Inc" once they realized the American people don't like to be "controlled".

Keep it up, we're winning despite media and political pressure.
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Re: Gun Control vs. Gun Safety?

Postby XDM45 on Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:50 am

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doublespeak, doublethink, political correctness = all b.s.

Keep up the good work and spreading the word.

I fear the masses will never be educated, but they can be informed. One major problem is that the mass media has the outlets with TV, radio, major news websites, the AP, etc. and any real information isn't found in those places, the McNews that general population of our society eats at. They are informed with misinformation, lies, incomplete truths, etc.

YouTube is one of the most powerful websites in the World because you can broadcast yourself as they say, so it's one of the few, if not the only media source for which the average person can speak to the World.
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Re: Gun Control vs. Gun Safety?

Postby Rmfcasey on Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:28 am

The NRA is the largest gun safety organization. They actually teach gun safety to people. all the gun control groups are run by commies lining their pockets by fleecing the fools.
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Re: Gun Control vs. Gun Safety?

Postby Rip Van Winkle on Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:59 am

Rmfcasey wrote:The NRA is the largest gun safety organization. They actually teach gun safety to people. all the gun control groups are run by commies lining their pockets by fleecing the fools.
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This point should be shoved down the media's throat every time they try to pull this BS.
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Re: Gun Control vs. Gun Safety?

Postby JustPlainT on Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:19 am

XDM45 wrote:YouTube is one of the most powerful websites in the World because you can broadcast yourself as they say, so it's one of the few, if not the only media source for which the average person can speak to the World.


Until they start censoring it, anyway.

Google has already censored their shopping section results to try and prevent firearm purchases online (of course, a regular search still yields results, so it doesn't really work yet)
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Re: Gun Control vs. Gun Safety?

Postby XDM45 on Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:18 am

JustPlainT wrote:
XDM45 wrote:YouTube is one of the most powerful websites in the World because you can broadcast yourself as they say, so it's one of the few, if not the only media source for which the average person can speak to the World.


Until they start censoring it, anyway.

Google has already censored their shopping section results to try and prevent firearm purchases online (of course, a regular search still yields results, so it doesn't really work yet)


Then another website will become YouTube.

Remember, Google didn't create YouTube....they purchased it.
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Re: Gun Control vs. Gun Safety?

Postby JustPlainT on Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:37 pm

Oh, no doubt that eventually someone would replace YouTube. But they'd always be the "alternative" one. I don't see the Google Empire being replaced in mainstream use.

We'd have a more difficult time reaching the non-gun community on an "alternative" site (some do exist today, such as vimeo).
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Re: Gun Control vs. Gun Safety?

Postby XDM45 on Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:49 pm

JustPlainT wrote:Oh, no doubt that eventually someone would replace YouTube. But they'd always be the "alternative" one. I don't see the Google Empire being replaced in mainstream use.

We'd have a more difficult time reaching the non-gun community on an "alternative" site (some do exist today, such as vimeo).


Well, Twitter, facebook, MySpace, Google, YouTube, and much more ALL got there start in the world of geekdom. It's only after they have created it and used it that it filters it's way into the masses of public culture. If YouTube comes nothing more than paid advertisements, ads on videos, etc, it will become worthless. While the mainstream may stay there, other people will not. They will create videos on alternative sites which will then be linked via hyperlinks, emails, etc and eventually those sites will become more known and used by the masses, thus replacing YouTube. Look at the MySpace to facebook situation for example. People started sending out invites over facebook, which while it has not replaced email, in regards to getting invites to events, it largely has done that already. That's certainly not the only site or example, but it's a good one.

The very protocol of the Internet (TCP) was designed for dynamic routing so that if one path goes down, the datagram packets can still traverse the network and communicate across the wire. Well, information is dynamic and so are people. Like TCP, they too will find ways to route around the heavy content filtering, ads and etc of YouTube or any restrictive site. I'm not worried about the if or when of the next-YouTube, but rather who will create it and when?

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