Permit to purchase

[phoenix8936]

So time has come to finally start buying handguns and I know that I need to obtain a permit to purchase. I found the document on the BCA's website and printed a copy of it off.

One question that pops up is on the first page. It asks for dealer information. But I do not have a current handgun in mind so that would mean no specified dealer either, so do I leave that blank?

And the other question is, that I moved for my job on a short term basis(renting an apartment in that town) but still have my own place. I have forwarded my mail to the new town for the time being. Where do I file this thing at? in the current town Im living or back where I came from? My DL is from an old address (college), yes I know that Im legally supposed to change that after 10 days of moving but I just havent yet.

[hammAR]

Wherever, but you will need to make sure that the information on your DL matches exactly the PTP......
while not mandatory, you will most likely get turned down for a purchase if they do not match..........
and that should answer the question as to where you file.....

Why do you not just get your P2C?

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[phoenix8936]

Why do you not just get your P2C?

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Never thought of it.. I guess I have not seen a need ever, as the guns I have all owned are hunting rifles. I have just gotten the interest in handguns, thanks to my uncle, and would probably only use them for target shooting occasionally. Guess I wouldnt even know where to start for a carry permit

[plblark]

Where to start:

To get a permit to carry, you need to take a class from an instructor certified by an organization Certified by the BCA
Then you apply for your permit in person in the county of your residence and pay the fee. Usually $100 though the law says the lesser of $100 or actual costs. If you're lucky, you're in Washington County where it's $75.
The Carry permit is good for 5 years and functions as a Permit to Purchase.

There are plenty of instructors around here who could help with that.
I have a Basics to Carry class on Jan 9th from 8a - 4:30pm at Oakdale Gun Club

True, I have a bit of a vested interest in people taking classes but I look at it this way:

Better to have and not need than need and not have. I have a couple neighbors that have permits for handgun hunting just as a convenience. I have a few prior students who don't intend to carry. Others got their permit not intending to carry, started carrying just to get used to it, and never stopped.

Here's an offer for you: Try it before you Buy it. Come out for my Jan 9th class, sit in and participate fully. Pay only the facility charge ($25). Shoot the Exercise. If you decide you want the certificate to seek a permit, pay the rest ($105 for a total of $130)

Either way, you leave with a good class, good information, and some perspective on the issues involved.

[Porkie]

I have both. I took the view that the only use for the permit is if I need to show it to a peace officer for some reason or another. No need for any private citizen to know about it at all. Especially some clerk in a gun shop.

I'd been applying for and routinely getting the Permit to Purchase for years. Anyway, the last time I needed one, the clerk at the police challenged the need because of the Permit to Carry; took the view it just made extra work for her. She took it up with the capitan involved, blah, blah, blah. After I talked to him, HE decided to take it up with the Attorney General. Apparently she decided he needed to issue the damn thing to any citizen who can pass the background check and who applies for it. Just like the law says he should and without reference to whether he thinks it makes additional work for his clerk, etc. and so on. Took about a week to finally figure it out.

Regards, Porkie

[Squib Joe]

You're getting a blanket permit to purchase, so you'll leave the top section blank. I would also suggest you fill the form out and sign it at your local PD.

The reason that most cities mail the permits is to confirm your address. They will mail it to whichever address is on your ID.. so if it doesn't match, you'll need to get it changed first. Some (but not all) cities will accept the yellow receipt showing that you've applied for a new ID, along with your old ID.

[hammAR]

In my not so humble opinion, everyone should exercise all of their Constitutional rights. Whether you own handguns or not, whether you will ever carry one or not, exercise you rights. Since everyone loves to use statistics, and they have found ways to "tax" your exercise of your rights, then it makes sense to add to the numbers.

Thus, if you are going to exercise your 2nd Amendment right and purchase a weapon requiring a state issued document, why not make your election to do so count in more ways than one. Get a P2C, add to the statistical numbers, and besides it is good for 5 years (rather than 1 for PTP), you may learn something taking the classes, and you are prepared in case you ever change your mind about carrying.............

plus you are covered, just in case you forget sometime and get caught with a loaded weapon on you or in the car in an "inappropriate" setting........this is particularity why I advise anyone getting a P2C to also have their spouse obtain one too, just in case......

again, IMNSHO....and $.02............

[phoenix8936]

Alright alright..So im evidently easily convinced to do things


But I will be waiting till this temporary work assignment is over with or becomes my new store and I move here. That way my DL will actually match my true residence, as that Im sure will cause all sorts of problems...

[plblark]

Your P2C course certificate is good for one year from date of issuance in case that makes any difference in your timing.

[phoenix8936]

Your P2C course certificate is good for one year from date of issuance in case that makes any difference in your timing.

HMMM intersting.. Now to see if i can rearrange peoples schedules to give me a day off

[justaguy]

Start thinking about what will happen if you are in a gas station while it gets robbed, and then get ready to answer who was your instructor.

[ttousi]

If Pauls class on the 9th doesn't work for you someone may have one on the 10th at OGC
hint hint

[justaguy]

If Pauls class on the 9th doesn't work for you someone may have one on the 10th at OGC
hint hint

Do you cover what to do if you are standing at the SA donut case trying to decide between the bear claw and the Bavarian cream and the place gets robbed?

[plblark]

Yep.

also, there's a whole sub forum of classes posted:
viewforum.php?f=16

and Instructors listing their certifications:
viewtopic.php?f=46&t=184

[ttousi]

If Pauls class on the 9th doesn't work for you someone may have one on the 10th at OGC
hint hint

Do you cover what to do if you are standing at the SA donut case trying to decide between the bear claw and the Bavarian cream and the place gets robbed?

Yes, including how the phase of the moon should affect your decision