How would YOU treat a Gun Shot Wound?

[plblark]

From Tam

from View From The Porch by Tam
A couple of Christmases ago, Shootin' Buddy gave me a nice Waller range bag. When I opened it, it already had a couple of Israeli trauma dressings in it. This is because when there are loaded guns about, sometimes bad things can happen, and Shootin' Buddy is a thoughtful and prepared kind of guy.

ToddG was giving his Aim Fast, Hit Fast course in Memphis this past weekend and a student had an ND right into their lower leg. Fortunately, all ended well and everybody reacted properly. Todd sums things up in an AAR:

* Accidents can happen to anyone at any time. This was not the student’s first formal training class and he had also participated in IDPA matches. He had drawn and reholstered his pistol probably a hundred times so far during AFHF this weekend alone. But a moment of inattention was all it took for a bullet to make two new holes in his body.
* Make a plan before an accident occurs and communicate that plan to everyone. Literally less than 30 seconds passed between when the student shot himself and two trained people were attending to the wounds. There was no panic, there was no standing around trying to figure out who was going to do what. We had a plan, everyone knew the plan, everyone followed the plan.
* If you are on the range, you should have a GSW kit with you. Even if you do not know how to use it — in which case you should learn — at least have the kit in case someone else has the know-how but not the supplies. An IFAK should be part of every shooter’s range kit.
* Never be in a rush to holster your pistol. We all know it, we say it, we teach it. Not all of us do it.

Plan A is for nobody to get shot. Have a Plan B.

With that in mind:
My First aid card is VERY out of date.

Anyone want to get together and hire a trainer? I think we have one or two hereabouts ...

Additionally, Thoughts on a GSW kit?

Closest I've had is the guy who tried to amputate his thumb with the slide. That crossed thumbs railroad track hold is BAD. Sterile Gauze pads, some medical tape, a couple tampons, and some duct tape made it into my first aid kit FAST after that!

[sochr000]

If someone local can't, let me know, I'm a Red Cross 1st Aid and CPR instructor, and for the cost of gas to get down there and maybe a couple beers I could come teach you.

[Seismic Sam]

Bill's sells a QuickClot kit that would be invaluable for a large tissue injury. I keep one on my sailboat in St. Thomas. When you're 50 miles out in the open ocean, you got no one to help you but yourself.

[Shipyard]

i'm in for learning something new. i can donate a few bucks and some homebrews towards the cause.

[Lady T]

What a great idea Paul!
I would love to refresh my training, it's been more than a few years since any formal training. I've had to deal with more than bloody thumbs at work & so far have handle things pretty well. For me, the more I know what to do, the more I should be able to keep my head in the situation.
Please count me in

Teresa

[monschman]

GSW kit, isnt that the hot poker and the rubber strap? I will need to get first responder re-certified again this year after april so if a fellow member is offering a class, show me where to sign up

[White Horseradish]

Sounds like a hell of an idea.

[45usp45]

I'm game for a class.My last certification is at least 2 decades old.

[tt3]

If we can do family CPR and first aid, I'd be in. I can also donate some brews.

[GregM]

I carry small bandages, alcohol wipes, scissors, etc. Not enough for a gunshot wound, that's for sure.

A first aid class sounds like a great idea.

[mnglocker]

SS Mentioned a quickclot kit, here's what he's talking about IIRC: http://www.celoxmedical.com/index.htm This, along with alcohol pads, iodine wash, sucher kit, high quality tweezers, a couple disposable scalples, stapler kit, 36" of latex or preffebly nitrile tubing (If not that, 550 cord will do), bandaids, gauze, a CPR kit, sterile nitrile gloves and any medications that may be needed make for a good kit

[plblark]

I know there are some warnings on Quik Clot. Things like do NOT use it unless it's ABSOLUTELY necessary as it can do damage. BUt I know just enough to know I don't know enough on the subject.

[princewally]

If we can do family CPR and first aid, I'd be in. I can also donate some brews.

+1

[plblark]

OK, looking around at the Redcross website, here's how it looks:
Standard First Aid: 4 hours, $55, offered in an evening class

Practice bandaging and splinting and learn a plan of action to recognize and deal with these emergencies: Unconsciousness; Bleeding; Broken bones; Head, neck, and back injuries; Sudden illness, including stroke, diabetic emergencies, seizures, fainting and poisoning. This course does not teach rescue breathing, CPR, or first aid for choking.
Length: 4 hours
Certification received: Standard First Aid (recognized as valid for three years)

Standard First Aid + CPR: 7 hours, $79, an all day class

Learn these skills for caring for adult victims: Giving rescue breaths, CPR, First aid for choking, Using a breathing barrier and gloves, Bleeding control, Splinting, Caring for head, neck, and back injuries, Recognizing signals of a heart attack, Caring for sudden illness.
Length: 7 hours
Certification received: CPR – Adult (recognized as valid for one year)
Standard First Aid (recognized as valid for three years)

Now, changing it from Standard +CPR to Family + GSW + CPR .. how would that change the class? I assume it's just specific GSW commentary, Adding child to Adult CPR ...

[Stradawhovious]

Depending on the date, I would love to be in on this...