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Where is the Wall to Wall Coverage

Postby gunflint on Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:25 am

A "crazed gunman walks into a mall, kills 8 people and himself and it's wall to wall coverage. A crazed gunman walks into a church, kills people but is shot by an armed guard potentially saving dozens of lives. Just try to get any info on the second story.
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Re: Where is the Wall to Wall Coverage

Postby JFettig on Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:48 am

I posted three links in this thread:
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Your right though, noone is saying anything. And they are calling him an armed guard. He was nothing more than a permit holder volunteering for a security position at the church.

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Re: Where is the Wall to Wall Coverage

Postby cobb on Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:04 am

JFettig wrote:And they are calling him an armed guard. He was nothing more than a permit holder volunteering for a security position at the church.

Cool, so I am an armed guard when I go to church. :flag:

or...do the church officials have to know that I have volunteered for this position. :hmm:
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Re: Where is the Wall to Wall Coverage

Postby DeanC on Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:56 am

I heard that the permit holder was woman - trying to verify.

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-na-shoot10dec10,1,4408466.story?coll=la-news-a_section

As of late Sunday, police had not identified the dead assailant or released details about the gun he used. KUSA-TV in Denver reported that the gunman had worn body armor and a tactical helmet.
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Re: Where is the Wall to Wall Coverage

Postby Thor on Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:04 am

Fox news has an interview with the pastor, he just said it was a "she". Armed security volunteer.
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Re: Where is the Wall to Wall Coverage

Postby hammAR on Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:33 am

cobb wrote:Cool, so I am an armed guard when I go to church. :flag:

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cobb wrote:or...do the church officials have to know that I have volunteered for this position. :hmm:


I would. I did and presented a plan for them to consider. After a couple of discussions I was fully surprised when our minister and deacons approved it and added "Please do!"............ :o

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Re: Where is the Wall to Wall Coverage

Postby Seismic Sam on Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:42 am

hammAR wrote:
I would. I did and presented a plan for them to consider. After a couple of discussions I was fully surprised when our minister and deacons approved it and added "Please do!"............ :o



That's only because you're such an ornery misbegotten old sinner that they'll do ANYTHING to get you in church and try and save your EFFEN soul... :P
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Re: Where is the Wall to Wall Coverage

Postby hammAR on Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:25 am

Seismic Sam wrote:That's only because you're such an ornery misbegotten old sinner that they'll do ANYTHING to get you in church and try and save your EFFEN soul... :P


Yea, effen A, and the minister is a former Marine Chaplin too........so are the three other "guards".... :D

ETA: ...and I don't have to wear a friggin name tag either............. :P :P :P
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Re: Where is the Wall to Wall Coverage

Postby GregM on Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:46 am

hammAR wrote:
Seismic Sam wrote:That's only because you're such an ornery misbegotten old sinner that they'll do ANYTHING to get you in church and try and save your EFFEN soul... :P


Yea, effen A, and the minister is a former Marine Chaplin too........so are the three other "guards".... :D

ETA: ...and I don't have to wear a friggin name tag either............. :P :P :P


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Re: Where is the Wall to Wall Coverage

Postby chunkstyle on Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:10 pm

In the denomination I attend, there is a standard church lay office called a "sexton". Nowadays, these are little more than janitors, ushers, and parking lot attendants, but in medieval times, they were armed security. Traditionally, they were armed with maces, and modern ones are given batons as vestiges of this tradition. Not only was there a need to protect the flock, but also portable church property. They were also retained to guard against grave robbing. Some traditions carried over to the US, as well. I know that in Texas, sextons have full police powers while on church property. I bet this is true in some other states, as well, but Texas is the only one I know of for sure.
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Re: Where is the Wall to Wall Coverage

Postby brauchma on Mon Dec 10, 2007 1:35 pm

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Re: Where is the Wall to Wall Coverage

Postby DeanC on Mon Dec 10, 2007 3:38 pm

Nice job on 1500, Pinnacle.
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Re: Where is the Wall to Wall Coverage

Postby BRIT_in_the_weeds on Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:46 pm

Ahhhhhh. So that's how Koresh did it. Made all the male members of his church sextons.

While I am all in favour of having armed members of the congregation, can someone explain to me, Church of Star Trek or some other fringe beliefs, and yes I know about the 1A
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Re: Where is the Wall to Wall Coverage

Postby someone1980 on Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:34 pm

Front page of cnn.com for at least half a day now.
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Re: Where is the Wall to Wall Coverage

Postby macphisto on Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:03 pm

DeanC wrote:Nice job on 1500, Pinnacle.

Whose show?
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