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Standard capacity magazines

Postby solidgun on Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:39 am

I got caught using the term "high capacity magazine" talking to people from HI. I tend to use it for CA and HI often, but I should really call them standard capacity as this is the term that I normally use.

Do you use the term "high capacity magazine" for standard?
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Re: Standard capacity magazines

Postby MrVvrroomm on Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:47 am

Standard capacity = what the manufacturer designed to use in the firearm

Anything else is "restricted" capacity
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Re: Standard capacity magazines

Postby ex-LT on Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:50 am

MrVvrroomm wrote:Standard capacity = what the manufacturer designed to use in the firearm

Anything else is "restricted" capacity

^^^^ This. Although I typically call them "reduced" capacity.
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Re: Standard capacity magazines

Postby Seismic Sam on Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:55 am

The term "standard" and "hicap" go back to the never to be sufficiently damned assault weapons ban of the Clinton era was enacted. Along with a lot of other anti-gun BS concerning EBR's, a maximum magazine capacity of 10 rounds was enacted for all civilian semi-auto magazines produced after the ban, and obviously some smart manufacturers went to a three shift basis just before then to make up as many "legal pre-ban hicap" mags as they could. Needless to say, the prices for these went through the roof.

So, if one were to use that obsolete terminology in a discussion today (and some people still might), a standard capacity magazine is 10 rounds or less, and a hicap is more than 10 rounds. In terms of what is actual law today, magazine capacity is whatever the manufacturer supplies with the gun, so NEITHER the term standard or hicap magazine would really be applicable. Now this is on a national level. In places like the People's Republik of Kalifornia, there may very well be state laws which still make that distinction and thus the standard and hicap terms would still be applicable.
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Re: Standard capacity magazines

Postby Heretical1 on Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:00 pm

Per Wikipedia:
High capacity magazines This page was last modified on 26 January 2012 at 20:28.

The term high capacity magazine is used to describe magazines that exceed a specified definition of "normal" capacity. In many jurisdictions, magazine capacity of certain firearms is legally restricted, such as it was under the United States' Federal Assault Weapons Ban, which defined a magazine capable of holding more than ten rounds of ammunition as a high capacity ammunition feeding device. This law expired in 2004 and there have since been multiple attempts to renew it[29] with no bill reaching the House floor for a vote. An attempt to only renew the limitations on large capacity magazines also failed.[30] Currently, in the United States, six states limit magazine capacities. The limits range from 5 rounds to 30 rounds.[31]

Magazine capacity is often limited by the design of the firearm in such cases as internal, tubular, or rotary magazines. In cases such as a detachable box magazine, capacity is limited only by its design. Some pistol and rifle magazines classified by gun control laws as "high capacity" are the factory standard magazines originally designed for use with their respective firearms. Reduced capacity magazines were created in response to enactment of the bans.[32]

At least six states (but not Connecticut) outlaw the sale of large-capacity magazines. Although the statutory definitions differ, typically these are magazines that can hold 10 or more rounds of ammunition (see Attachment II). -->> http://www.cga.ct.gov/2007/rpt/2007-R-0217.htm

Attachment II: States Prohibiting Large-Capacity Magazines

California* No more than 10 Cal. Penal Code § 12020(a)(2),(b)(c)25

Hawaii (applies to handguns only) No more than 10 Hawaii Rev. Stat. § 134-8(c)

Maryland* No more than 20 Md. Code Ann. Crim. Law § 4-305

Massachusetts* No more than 10 Mass. Gen. Laws ch. 140 §§ 121, 131M

New Jersey* No more than 15 N.J. Stat. Ann. §§ 2C: 39-9(h), 2C: 39-1(y), 2C: 39-3(j)

New York* No more than 10 N.Y. Penal Law §§ 265.00 (23), 265.02(8)
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Re: Standard capacity magazines

Postby Guerrilla1979 on Fri Mar 09, 2012 5:53 pm

I would have to say I call a standard cap mag a standard capacity magazine. I'm certainly don't call semi-auto AR15s and AKs "assault rifles".

IMO these are terms favored by the left to help with future bans.
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