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Such a difference

Postby arizona98tj on Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:39 pm

I have 80 acres outside of Bemidji that I'll retire to in a few years. I currently reside in Arizona, where I've worked for the past 26 years. I sure hope Minnesota catches up with some of the other states in relaxing some of the firearm laws. Last I knew, it was a felony to own a suppressor in Minnesota. I hope that changes before I get back there.

In contrast, this was today's legislative news in Arizona regarding firearms.....

Yesterday, Arizona Governor Jan Brewer signed into law House Bill 2640, which passed in both houses by large bipartisan majorities and will eliminate restrictions on the magazine capacity of any authorized firearm regulated by the Arizona Game and Fish Commission. Also, House Bill 2728, which would allow hunters in Arizona to use lawfully-possessed suppressors (also referred to as silencers) on firearms for hunting, has passed out of the Committee of the Whole and is now eligible for a vote in the full Senate.


Currently, more than half of the states across the country allow hunters to use suppressors while hunting and three other states (Oklahoma, Georgia and Texas) are currently considering similar legislation or are changing their hunting regulations to allow their use.
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Re: Such a difference

Postby Mdclinks on Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:50 am

arizona98tj wrote:I have 80 acres outside of Bemidji that I'll retire to in a few years. I currently reside in Arizona, where I've worked for the past 26 years. I sure hope Minnesota catches up with some of the other states in relaxing some of the firearm laws. Last I knew, it was a felony to own a suppressor in Minnesota. I hope that changes before I get back there.

In contrast, this was today's legislative news in Arizona regarding firearms.....

Yesterday, Arizona Governor Jan Brewer signed into law House Bill 2640, which passed in both houses by large bipartisan majorities and will eliminate restrictions on the magazine capacity of any authorized firearm regulated by the Arizona Game and Fish Commission. Also, House Bill 2728, which would allow hunters in Arizona to use lawfully-possessed suppressors (also referred to as silencers) on firearms for hunting, has passed out of the Committee of the Whole and is now eligible for a vote in the full Senate.


Currently, more than half of the states across the country allow hunters to use suppressors while hunting and three other states (Oklahoma, Georgia and Texas) are currently considering similar legislation or are changing their hunting regulations to allow their use.


There are states that consider using a suppressor/silencer to take game hunting?
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Re: Such a difference

Postby JJ on Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:55 am

I know it's pretty common to see supressors on coyote rigs in SD. I have never looked into other game, but I would assume they are legal for that as well.

That's why I plan on moving to SD
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Re: Such a difference

Postby Rem700 on Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:29 am

Would be nice to be able night hunt with a light in Az.
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Re: Such a difference

Postby Thunderjohn on Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:59 am

Although we have some restrictions, we're still pretty good compared to a lot of states.
Considering all the libs in MN, I'm surprised we have what we have.
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Re: Such a difference

Postby arizona98tj on Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:49 am

Mdclinks wrote:There are states that consider using a suppressor/silencer to take game hunting?


I guess I fail to see why protecting your hearing while hunting an animal somehow takes away from the concept of hunting. Does it somehow give you an edge over the animal you are pulling the trigger on?
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Re: Such a difference

Postby PRS on Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:11 pm

You want to move to SD so you can own a suppressor? Damn....
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Re: Such a difference

Postby mmcnx2 on Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:31 pm

Just don't understand the big deal about owning a suppressor. Other than the novelty what is the attraction?
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Such a difference

Postby connsolo on Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:15 pm

^ +1
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Re: Such a difference

Postby bulletproof on Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:21 pm

mmcnx2 wrote:Just don't understand the big deal about owning a suppressor. Other than the novelty what is the attraction?


Suppression of noise has many uses. Hearing protection, limiting noise complains in populated areas, keeping game from being spooked ,etc...

The attraction is similar to adding any other accessory, like a light, laser, sling, scope.
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Re: Such a difference

Postby Spartan on Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:23 pm

Thunderjohn wrote:Although we have some restrictions, we're still pretty good compared to a lot of states.
Considering all the libs in MN, I'm surprised we have what we have.



I know a lot of people worked very hard for the current carry laws..... but I was surprised when it happened..... I was equally surpised by the slowness of Wisconsin and Iowa to pass them....

Minnesota is like " City State" what the metro wants it gets.....
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Re: Such a difference

Postby Mdclinks on Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:09 pm

arizona98tj wrote:
Mdclinks wrote:There are states that consider using a suppressor/silencer to take game hunting?


I guess I fail to see why protecting your hearing while hunting an animal somehow takes away from the concept of hunting. Does it somehow give you an edge over the animal you are pulling the trigger on?


Wear hearing protection. I don't believe you should be using it on big game or small game. Isn't the technology we have already good enough? Did your father, grandfather, or great grandfather need a suppressor to be successful? I have no problem with owning suppressors. Go ahead and use them on varmints. Shoot coyotes at night with night vision off the back of a atv for all I care. Coyotes are a nuisance and should never be brought here in the first place.
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Re: Such a difference

Postby arizona98tj on Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:25 pm

Mdclinks wrote:
arizona98tj wrote:
Mdclinks wrote:There are states that consider using a suppressor/silencer to take game hunting?


I guess I fail to see why protecting your hearing while hunting an animal somehow takes away from the concept of hunting. Does it somehow give you an edge over the animal you are pulling the trigger on?


Wear hearing protection. I don't believe you should be using it on big game or small game. Isn't the technology we have already good enough? Did your father, grandfather, or great grandfather need a suppressor to be successful? I have no problem with owning suppressors. Go ahead and use them on varmints. Shoot coyotes at night with night vision off the back of a atv for all I care. Coyotes are a nuisance and should never be brought here in the first place.


OK....so you can't or won't say how my wanting to protect my hearing somehow changes the actual act of hunting. You seem to think that my using a suppressor will make me a successful hunter? Are you serious? Explain how the technology behind hearing conservation makes me a more successful hunter. Please try to keep your answer on topic....leaving out the comments regarding my long deceased relatives, night vision, or ATVs. OK?
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Re: Such a difference

Postby solidgun on Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:28 pm

Noise reduction is very important. How many of you have actually shot indoors that is not a range? Do you know how disorienting it is to actually be subjected to that noise without hearing protection. I don't know how many of you have hearing protection next to your night stand, but when you need it, you would appreciate it. That is why I laugh at people claiming they only need large caliber gun for their "home defense". It is deafening when you have to clear a house like course with hearing protection next to someone with a 1911 even with hearing protection on.

After your first shot, it will be disorienting for you and reduction in noise can be of great asset in many situations. Also, during training courses, it helps you to communicate with your partner/teammates and while electronic hearing protection is nice, having a can attached works much better.
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Re: Such a difference

Postby Holland&Holland on Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:31 pm

mmcnx2 wrote:Just don't understand the big deal about owning a suppressor. Other than the novelty what is the attraction?


Because they transform normal law abiding guys into assasins for the drug cartels. ;)

Seriously, why own 95% of what we own? No one "needs" an I phone, and I pad, a cell phone, a GPS, or a car for that matter. We did just fine with Alex's good old rotory dial and a horse and buggy. Why one one? Because there is absolutly no resonable reason why you should not be able to own one and as someone whos family has hereditory hearing loss issues anything that can delay that is a plus.
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