DNR Auction

[Pezhead]

Has anyone had any experience with the DNR Auction? http://www.hillerauction.com/apr28.html
I don't recall seeing this posted.

[ForeverTwoWheels]

Yeah these come up every once in a while, usually after fall hunting season, and I wouldn't give them a dime. This is all stolen property being sold for profit by a racket. Putting a badge on an armed thug is like waxing a turd.

Don't support thievery and corruption.

[cobb]

I would like to attend if I can, looks like a chance to get a deal on a utility type firearm.

As far as supporting it, I think poachers and game thieves get off to easily in many cases. I think selling these low life's property to help pay for the resources that they stole from the honest sportsman is a good idea.

[yukonjasper]

As far as supporting it, I think poachers and game thieves get off to easily in many cases. I think selling these low life's property to help pay for the resources that they stole from the honest sportsman is a good idea.

+1

Forever, I couldn't disagree with you more. If you break the law - you pay the price - as Cobb said, often the price is too low. Sounds like you or someone you know has been on the wrong side of the game laws - Don't care too much for poachers.

[ex-LT]

I would like to attend if I can, looks like a chance to get a deal on a utility type firearm.

I purchased a gun at the DNR auction back when they used to hold them at Surplus Services. I wouldn't expect any bargains - you can probably get better a quality gun at a better price here.

I've also attended a Hiller auction. Never again. You have to pay for a bidder number, and you also have to pay sales tax on anything you buy. In addition, on their snowmobile and ATV auctions, buyers have to pay a 10% "buyer's fee".

As far as supporting it, I think poachers and game thieves get off to easily in many cases. I think selling these low life's property to help pay for the resources that they stole from the honest sportsman is a good idea.

Agreed. I have absolutely no respect for poachers, and think the DNR is well within their rights to take anything used in the commission of the crime - up to and including their vehicles. IMNSHO, the ******* in WI who was part of the group that shot 100+ deer got off easy. He should get a minimum of 5 years in jail, lose his hunting privileges for life, and any gun that can be positively identified as having been used to take one of the illegal deer should be confiscated.

[Pinnacle]

Yeah these come up every once in a while, usually after fall hunting season, and I wouldn't give them a dime. This is all stolen property being sold for profit by a racket. Putting a badge on an armed thug is like waxing a turd.

Don't support thievery and corruption.

It is a pretty straight forward deal - DONT POACH, buy the license and RTFM.

Pretty easy, and as for DNR officers, they do have a lot of power - for sure - JUST FOLLOW THE RULES.

[Mdclinks]

Yeah these come up every once in a while, usually after fall hunting season, and I wouldn't give them a dime. This is all stolen property being sold for profit by a racket. Putting a badge on an armed thug is like waxing a turd.

Don't support thievery and corruption.

It is a pretty straight forward deal - DONT POACH, buy the license and RTFM.

Pretty easy, and as for DNR officers, they do have a lot of power - for sure - JUST FOLLOW THE RULES.

I have no problem with the DNR taking poachers firearms/vehicles. I do however not care for many of the state conservation officers being aholes on a power trip. I get doing your job but there is no reason to be a dink to people that are being respectful and cooperative. I have never had any issue with any of the federal wardens I have dealt with.

[grousemaster]

It's not just poachers they take stuff from. When I was in high school, a few friends and I went out the night before deer opener and set up stands in a state forest. The next day all of our stands were gone, thousands of dollars worth of equipment. When we went and reported it to the local DNR he let us know that he indeed took them and then he wrote us all tickets.

I know we were in the wrong leaving our stands up overnight (didn't know at the time), but none of us were "poachers" and our weekend was screwed. These stands were sold at auction. Lesson learned. I know we were in the wrong but we had no ill intent, he could have skipped writing us the tickets

[photogpat]

Having met with, spoken to, and lived next to CO's plenty of times in the past - they're not bad people. Much like police and other law enforcement, there are some bad apples in the bunch....but overall, they're decent human beings, and I've learned alot about game & fish laws from asking them questions. Much like interacting with other law enforcement, if you're polite, respectful to them -- they'll likewise be to you (unless its something blantant and obnoxious).

I don't understand why people complain about getting busted violating game & fish laws.The rules are available in a free manual, free download, etc....from the DNR. Read it, EVERY YEAR. You know what waters you fish, you know what game you hunt...read the rules. Don't break the law! Then you don't have to worry about getting your gear taken away.

Think the rules are too strict? Take it up with your state representative -- the Field Enforcement Officer isn't going to care that you think the slot limit is too restrictive, or that you should be able to leave your dekes out overnight, or that you should be able to leave your stand up on public land overnight, or that two/three lines is legal in other states, or that you should be able to ride without a trail sticker. He/She is just there to enforce the existing rules/regs...

If you're legally fishing/hunting/recreatin' and you get busted for something you didn't do -- then you have a right to complain, thats what lawyers are for!

[mrp]

I've also attended a Hiller auction. Never again. You have to pay for a bidder number, and you also have to pay sales tax on anything you buy. In addition, on their snowmobile and ATV auctions, buyers have to pay a 10% "buyer's fee".

They also try to charge a 3% convenience fee if you pay with a credit card. That's a violation of their merchant agreement with the credit card companies. You can get the 3% refunded if you complain to your card company.

[Rodentman]

Slightly OT but when I was in college in PA some friends and I were driving around and we stopped at a reservoir (lake) for a break. We weren't drinking, smoking (anything) or even throwing rocks in the water. There was no one around and we weren't bothering anyone. The DNR (or whatever authority had jurisdiction there) came up to us and gave us a citation for entering the property and NOT fishing. No one was allowed on that premises unless they were fishing.

[grousemaster]

Having met with, spoken to, and lived next to CO's plenty of times in the past - they're not bad people. Much like police and other law enforcement, there are some bad apples in the bunch....but overall, they're decent human beings, and I've learned alot about game & fish laws from asking them questions. Much like interacting with other law enforcement, if you're polite, respectful to them -- they'll likewise be to you (unless its something blantant and obnoxious).

I don't understand why people complain about getting busted violating game & fish laws.The rules are available in a free manual, free download, etc....from the DNR. Read it, EVERY YEAR. You know what waters you fish, you know what game you hunt...read the rules. Don't break the law! Then you don't have to worry about getting your gear taken away.

Think the rules are too strict? Take it up with your state representative -- the Field Enforcement Officer isn't going to care that you think the slot limit is too restrictive, or that you should be able to leave your dekes out overnight, or that you should be able to leave your stand up on public land overnight, or that two/three lines is legal in other states, or that you should be able to ride without a trail sticker. He/She is just there to enforce the existing rules/regs...

If you're legally fishing/hunting/recreatin' and you get busted for something you didn't do -- then you have a right to complain, thats what lawyers are for!

I agree wholeheartedly.

[Mdclinks]

Having met with, spoken to, and lived next to CO's plenty of times in the past - they're not bad people. Much like police and other law enforcement, there are some bad apples in the bunch....but overall, they're decent human beings, and I've learned alot about game & fish laws from asking them questions. Much like interacting with other law enforcement, if you're polite, respectful to them -- they'll likewise be to you (unless its something blantant and obnoxious).

I don't understand why people complain about getting busted violating game & fish laws.The rules are available in a free manual, free download, etc....from the DNR. Read it, EVERY YEAR. You know what waters you fish, you know what game you hunt...read the rules. Don't break the law! Then you don't have to worry about getting your gear taken away.

Think the rules are too strict? Take it up with your state representative -- the Field Enforcement Officer isn't going to care that you think the slot limit is too restrictive, or that you should be able to leave your dekes out overnight, or that you should be able to leave your stand up on public land overnight, or that two/three lines is legal in other states, or that you should be able to ride without a trail sticker. He/She is just there to enforce the existing rules/regs...

If you're legally fishing/hunting/recreatin' and you get busted for something you didn't do -- then you have a right to complain, thats what lawyers are for!

I agree wholeheartedly.

I know I should not have such a general dislike for the DNR as I do. The majority that I have met have been pretty nice guys. I have just been subject to a few bad apples. A few bad apples on a recurring basis. Sometimes being polite, respectful, and cooperative along with being legal is not enough for them, in my experience.

[Pinnacle]

This is no excuse, and not trying to make any - but the Game Warden job is one that I would not really want to do. Freaking Dangerous as hell.

[ForeverTwoWheels]

As far as supporting it, I think poachers and game thieves get off to easily in many cases. I think selling these low life's property to help pay for the resources that they stole from the honest sportsman is a good idea.

+1

Forever, I couldn't disagree with you more. If you break the law - you pay the price - as Cobb said, often the price is too low. Sounds like you or someone you know has been on the wrong side of the game laws - Don't care too much for poachers.

I reject your radical assumption, I've never hunted. I just don't support victimless laws or the thievery done by the State. If I came to your house and stole your TV and sold it I'd be guilty as would the person I sold it to...unless I was wearing a badge.