Permit to Purchase time

[umnshooter]

Sorry to post another thread about MN permits, but i had a question about the time it takes to get your purchase permit. I went in on the 8th and requested a permit to purchase so that i can find a reason to meet thunderjohn. not i have received any information back from them, no mail, denied permit, or issue. so do i go to the office and ask or keep waiting. I am in Hennepin county so i know that patience is a virtue for anything concerning guns. suggestions for next step?

[rockcreek]

Unless you have the means to hire an attorney, and pursue the fact that they are breaking the law by not approving or denying your application within 7 days, you pretty much just need to wait. I have dealt with both Hennepin and Ramsey counties taking 30-60 days. They are making a political statement, and blame it on the lack of funding. They know they are breaking the law, and don't care.

[umnshooter]

oh man, that sounds wonderful. Love it when the government do me where it hurts.

[BBeckwith]

Well first of you asked about PtP, and said Hennipen county.what city PD did you apply to that will help others give you an Idea from their experience. Legally they have 7 days to issue. Many cities don't care as there are no teeth to the law if they disregard it. I have only heard of one city taking a month or more recently. Most seem to be the 7-10 day range. $5 says if you call they guy that does them is on vacation though

[westhope]

Did you get a dated receipt when you filled out the form?

The last page of the Permit to Purchase application is to be dated and returned to you. Many departments fail to fill out this seperate page and give it to the applicant because it is proof that they fail to process the permit in the mandated 7 days (not business days) by law.

Again, several departments don't care because their is no penality if they do not process the permit in the specified time. They all know it should be within 7 days.

[cobb]

Sorry to post another thread about MN permits, but i had a question about the time it takes to get your purchase permit. I went in on the 8th and requested a permit to purchase so that i can find a reason to meet thunderjohn. not i have received any information back from them, no mail, denied permit, or issue. so do i go to the office and ask or keep waiting. I am in Hennepin county so i know that patience is a virtue for anything concerning guns. suggestions for next step?

Was kinda eluded to earlier.
Hennepin County has nothing to do with issuing a PTP to you, for a PTP you apply to the chief of police of the city that you live in.
So which city would that be?

[jgalt]

60+ days to get mine from St. Paul back in 2008 - P2C took 12 days & came before the P2P...

As others have said, there's nothing you can do unless you'd like to hire a lawyer.

[umnshooter]

Yep that women just handed it back to me without filling it out. This is in Minneapolis. I wanted to get a gun and practice before I take my PTC, but it might be quicker to get that instead.

[Thunderjohn]

Mpls isn't what you'd call a gun loving city.
They get no revenue and have no incentive to get them issued.

The last customer I asked who lives in Mpls said it took 2.5 weeks for the PTP.
St Paul was about 1.5 weeks.
Had a guy get his carry permit from Washington Cty in less than 2 weeks.

[umnshooter]

I'll keep waiting and keep you guys updated. More importantly, sorry to make you wait Thunderjohn.

[hirdlej]

Maple Grove took me 3 weeks when Mona Dohman was in charge (police chief). Since they kicked her out and made her Commissioner of public safety, it goes a lot quicker. My renewal only took 2 days

[XDM45]

The following is my opinion:

Getting a PTP is completely understandable and required before purchasing your first pistol; but I think that sometime within that first year (before it expires), one should get their PTC. Now I think carrying is a good thing, but that's beside the point of my post... my point is that with a PTC one doesn't need to wait for a PTP since a PTC is good for 5 years AND it also acts as a PTP as well. BONUS!!

So, in short, what I'm seeing in thread is reasons why people who already own pistols should get a PTC.

Just an observation.

[GunGoogler]

The following is my opinion:

Getting a PTP is completely understandable and required before purchasing your first pistol; but I think that sometime within that first year (before it expires), one should get their PTC. Now I think carrying is a good thing, but that's beside the point of my post... my point is that with a PTC one doesn't need to wait for a PTP since a PTC is good for 5 years AND it also acts as a PTP as well. BONUS!!

So, in short, what I'm seeing in thread is reasons why people who already own pistols should get a PTC.

Just an observation.

I agree with your opinion, but perhaps for a different reason. Although the fact that a PTC acts as a 5-year PTP, which is great, I think the better justification for getting a PTC is the training and thought necessary to do so. Regardless of your familiarity with firearms, PTC classes often require a more than cursory review of state laws and requires the practitioner to consider and prepare for having to use the firearm in a defensive situation. For this reason, I think it is valuable regardless of whether you intend to carry the weapon or choose to never carry. The better educated and responsible each gun owner is, the better for all of us.

[XDM45]

The following is my opinion:

Getting a PTP is completely understandable and required before purchasing your first pistol; but I think that sometime within that first year (before it expires), one should get their PTC. Now I think carrying is a good thing, but that's beside the point of my post... my point is that with a PTC one doesn't need to wait for a PTP since a PTC is good for 5 years AND it also acts as a PTP as well. BONUS!!

So, in short, what I'm seeing in thread is reasons why people who already own pistols should get a PTC.

Just an observation.

I agree with your opinion, but perhaps for a different reason. Although the fact that a PTC acts as a 5-year PTP, which is great, I think the better justification for getting a PTC is the training and thought necessary to do so. Regardless of your familiarity with firearms, PTC classes often require a more than cursory review of state laws and requires the practitioner to consider and prepare for having to use the firearm in a defensive situation. For this reason, I think it is valuable regardless of whether you intend to carry the weapon or choose to never carry. The better educated and responsible each gun owner is, the better for all of us.

Absolutely agreed. That is yet another good reason, and there are many.

- Purchasing
- Can carry
- Better training

...just to name a few.

[cobb]

I am still curious if umnshooter applied at the correct location. It appears from the OP that the application was to Hennepin County for a PTP, but isn't all of Hennepin county urban or city? If so, then a PTP application would have to be made to the chief of police of the city of residence. If all assumptions are correct, hell may freeze over before Hennepin County responds to a PTP application from a city resident.