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AWB Text

Postby igofast on Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:08 pm

Finally was able to find the text of the bill. It's still not uploaded to the Library of Congress, but is available off of Feinstein's web site:

http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/files/serve/?File_id=9a9270d5-ce4d-49fb-9b2f-69e69f517fb4

Some things I noticed during my brief read:

Addresses:
    Slidefire stocks(not my name, but by 'feature' - 36C)
    Bullet Button(not my name, but by 'feature' - 39)
    Thumbhole stock(46)

Magazines after ban need to have serial numbers and date of manufacture
Law would be enacted 90 days after passed(you think prices are bad now - those 90 days are going to be crazy).

Some very interesting exemptions, assumeably to pad the legislation and appease the hunter's. I mean, we are talking about semi-auto firearms here, so why all of the lever(nice to the cowboy action 1873 Winchester is ok), bolt, and pump guns?

Benelli M's are safe, as are Reminton Versa-Max, but my Mossberg 930 JM series is 'bad'. 10/22's are ok, as long as they don't have a folding stock(guess a collapsing stock is ok).
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Re: AWB Text

Postby Thunder71 on Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:23 pm

Constitution of the United States: "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"

Diane Feinstein: "To ensure that the right to keep and bear arms are not unlimited."

Guess who wins? The Constitution, end of story.
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Re: AWB Text

Postby JJ on Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:32 pm

Thunder71 wrote:Constitution of the United States: "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"

Diane Feinstein: "To ensure that the right to keep and bear arms are not unlimited."

Guess who wins? The Constitution, end of story.


How'd that go in 1994 :?
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Re: AWB Text

Postby Thunder71 on Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:33 pm

JJ wrote:
Thunder71 wrote:Constitution of the United States: "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"

Diane Feinstein: "To ensure that the right to keep and bear arms are not unlimited."

Guess who wins? The Constitution, end of story.


How'd that go in 1994 :?


Huge fail, and accomplished nothing.

Next.
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Re: AWB Text

Postby igofast on Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:23 pm

Thunder71 wrote:
JJ wrote:
Thunder71 wrote:Constitution of the United States: "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"

Diane Feinstein: "To ensure that the right to keep and bear arms are not unlimited."

Guess who wins? The Constitution, end of story.


How'd that go in 1994 :?


Huge fail, and accomplished nothing.

Next.


No disagreement, BUT it passed and was never declared unconstitutional, so the precedent is there.
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Re: AWB Text

Postby Dave Timm on Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:25 pm

Thanks for the text. I agree it says is doesn't apply to bolt guns but then why list a bunch of bolt guns? My guess is to sell this as you said. Just seems dumb, but then again look at the author, to say these types are exempt but ill list them anyway so it looks good.

This is my opinion only yada yada. Not that of my company I represent.

I still think this will be a challenge to say the least to get passed as it is written. What worries me is the deals and promises made behind the scenes and what may finally make it to law.
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Re: AWB Text

Postby jspace on Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:11 pm

IANL, but I would read this as banning the M1A (all variations), even though I don't see it listed, under this heading
1 ‘‘(v) A semiautomatic version of an auto-
2 matic firearm.


Forgive me for not reading all 122 fricken pages, but a quick search turns up nothing. I'm sure there are other cool things that fall under that heading as well.
Either way, it sucks.
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Re: AWB Text

Postby EAJuggalo on Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:15 pm

That same clause would ban the Glock 17 as well.
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AWB Text

Postby Evad on Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:20 pm

EAJuggalo wrote:That same clause would ban the Glock 17 as well.


Semantics says no. The 18 was an automatic version of a semi auto. But semantics only seems to work against, not for us.
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Re: AWB Text

Postby Punisher102 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:01 pm

Are you guys forgetting that the AR15 was born a SEMI and then later adapted to full auto?? Not the other way around.
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Re: AWB Text

Postby Snakeman721 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:42 pm

[/quote]

No disagreement, BUT it passed and was never declared unconstitutional, so the precedent is there.[/quote]

It probably was never challenged because the "climate" wasn't right back then....Dem in the White House and Dem congress.
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