Do they simply not get it?

[lucycan]

I was watching on CNN today about our dear Vice President continuing to push for much stricter gun control. "The world would be a safer place" he says and he surrounds himself with Newtown parents.

The VERY next story on CNN is about a shooting in Chicago that involved 7 people.

Now last time I looked Chicago has the MOST strict gun laws in the country.

It does not take a 2nd grade education to see that what Mr. Biden is pushing makes no difference what-so-ever.

/rant

[rugersol]

... whaddya expect 'em to do?! ... balance the budget?!

[sansooshooter]

The news media is a cheerleader for the ruling elite Government class. They cheerlead and steer the mass of sheeple down the path to socialist slavery!
Too many people truly believe that the government can solve all issues and that we can not run our own lives.

The media like the politicians tell their selected version of reality. They get it. But they believe that the means , Justifies the end result.
Remember the media has a agenda too.

[XDM45]

Too many people truly believe that the government can solve all issues and that we can not run our own lives.

Absolutely. After all, look what a wonderful job the Mayor of New Orleans and FEMA did in 2005. Why even 7 years later, you can go to the city and it looks like nothing ever happened. Efficiency and Effectiveness at it's finest from YOUR government who is here to serve YOU, the American Citizen.

[Hoot]

I think you all are taking it too personally. The cable news media just wants to sell commercial slots. They'll pick at any scab to get folks to stay tuned "After these important messages." It's about the love of money. Nothing more.

Hoot

[sansooshooter]

I think you all are taking it to personally. The cable news media just wants to sell commercial slots. They'll pick at any scab to get folks to stay tuned "After these important messages." It's about the love of money. Nothing more.

Hoot

Not at all. I see the media as a wing of the progressive movement. Yes they sale commercial slots and I admit to taking offense at the dumb white guy joke in the majority of commercials!
But they do push government and progressive agenda's. They are not fair and balanced . I don't really expect them to be.
The only way media is balanced is if you have a opposition media of equal scale. That's not going to happen any time soon.

[Ski_Doctor]

The news media is a cheerleader for the ruling elite Government class. They cheerlead and steer the mass of sheeple down the path to socialist slavery!
Too many people truly believe that the government can solve all issues and that we can not run our own lives.

Well stated. I wish we could fast-forward the clock and see what civilization would be like without our 2nd ammendment rights. I suspect the common sheeple would be seen cowering behind the woefully unarmed police wondering why they can't defend them against the criminal elements that have run amock.

[LarryP]

Sure they "get" it. They're not idiots. You have to look beyond gun control like they are doing. They want gun ownership outlawed. That's their ultimate goal.
What they are doing is just steps in their process to get a out right ban on guns.
When or if that will happen is unknown.

I was watching on CNN today about our dear Vice President continuing to push for much stricter gun control. "The world would be a safer place" he says and he surrounds himself with Newtown parents.

The VERY next story on CNN is about a shooting in Chicago that involved 7 people.

Now last time I looked Chicago has the MOST strict gun laws in the country.

It does not take a 2nd grade education to see that what Mr. Biden is pushing makes no difference what-so-ever.

/rant

[LarryFlew]

Not sure they do. Watching Arin Burnet out front last night. DFL guy who is for gun control tells her he has 17 guns as he is a hunter. She says that scares me a little. He goes on to say they have never done anything wrong as guns and he is not mental etc and THEN the next line is NOBODY NEEDS AN ASSAULT WEAPON. DUH

[XDM45]

Dianne Feinsten gets it to some degree. She had/has a CCW and a pistol. She gets it as far as protecting herself goes, but she and other AGers don't think the same options and abilities should apply to you and I. She and other AGers most likely "get it" more than we give her/them credit for; but I'm sure no one "gets it" 100%. "Getting it" varies with in which way do we mean "get it". Semantics? Maybe... but I think that's important that we define what "getting it" means.

To me, owning a gun is constitutional right to own, as well as a functional, freedom-saving tool, so I "get it" in that regard; while to others, guns are something to be drooled over, worshiped, adored, collected, etc, and I just don't get that. So do I "get it"? Not 100%. Nope. To others, the fact that I see a firearm as a functional tool used for saving lives and freedom, and not something to be drooled over, worshiped, adored, collected, etc, they probably don't "get it" as I do, so do they "get it" 100% either? No.

I think "getting it" in general means at it's core that we have the constitutional right to own and bear arms to protect us from tyranny foreign and domestic; and that right "shall not be infringed". In THAT regard, I think everyone "gets it", on both sides of the fence.... it's just that the AGers don't want to either acknowledge it, or they want to change it for their own personal and political agenda. That's why a lot of what is said is met with fingers in the ears with "la la la la!! I can't hear you!!"

We can't change them, so we need to out breed them, so to speak,..... We need to take the new influx of new gun owners and willing fence sitters and grow them into responsible gun owners not only for the safety and security of themselves and our country, but to grow our numbers at the same time. The more people are on our side vs. theirs, the better our position will be, especially if they are brought up into activism for freedom. There's a LOT of good causes to be active about, not just freedom, but without freedom, the others don't really stand a chance. So at the core of "Save the Whales" and the "March of Dimes" or any other charity, cause, etc, is freedom. The 2A is the foundation of this country. Lose that right and soon after all others will follow.

I think we need to stop looking at the AGers as "damn.. they just don't get it!!" and change our focus to "ok, they do get it, but they refuse to act upon it and instead are doing XY and Z." We need to take our energies and focus them where it WILL make a difference because you'll never convince someone who doesn't want to be convinced.

[Tronster]

The media and the government have always catered to the image of the "reasonable" sportsman hunter who has a pump shotgun and a bolt action rifle with a box of ammo for each.
But if you have 25 all black semiauto guns with pistol grips and shroud going-up-thingys and a stack of ammo you are a loose cannon about to go off on a rampage.

To them, hunting with an old bolt action is ok, but defensive shooting drills with an AR is cause for a psych eval.

[Angus]

I don't care what people think out loud about-
I care what they do. the dem clown car drivers can't even schedule a vote here or in DC. stay active and enjoy the shooting sports. as long as political expediency drives our politics nothing gets done and I'm starting to believe that's just the way they want it.

[spyder357]

I don't care what people think out loud about-
I care what they do. the dem clown car drivers can't even schedule a vote here or in DC. stay active and enjoy the shooting sports. as long as political expediency drives our politics nothing gets done and I'm starting to believe that's just the way they want it.

As far as I'm concerned politicians believe in the mantra "There's money to be made in prolonging the problems"