Does address on PTC need to match DL for handgun purchase?

[ArtVandelay]

Like title says does the address on my PTC need to match the address on my DL to purchase a handgun? I have purchased about 5-6 guns from different LGS and a couple FFL dealers after moving and not wanting to pay the $10 to get a new PTC card with zero issues. Today at Gander Mt in Rogers they said I could not purchase any firearm with a PTC and license that did not have matching addresses.

Have the other LGS and FFL dealers been breaking the law? Or Gander Mt mistaken on this?

Thanks for your comments!

[BemidjiDweller]

You are breaking the law if you moved and didn't update your PTC within 30 days.

624.714
Subd. 7a.Change of address; loss or destruction of permit. (a) Within 30 days after changing permanent address, or within 30 days of having lost or destroyed the permit card, the permit holder must notify the issuing sheriff of the change, loss, or destruction. Failure to provide notification as required by this subdivision is a petty misdemeanor. The fine for a first offense must not exceed $25. Notwithstanding section 609.531, a firearm carried in violation of this paragraph is not subject to forfeiture.

[ArtVandelay]

You are breaking the law if you moved and didn't update your PTC within 30 days.

624.714
Subd. 7a.Change of address; loss or destruction of permit. (a) Within 30 days after changing permanent address, or within 30 days of having lost or destroyed the permit card, the permit holder must notify the issuing sheriff of the change, loss, or destruction. Failure to provide notification as required by this subdivision is a petty misdemeanor. The fine for a first offense must not exceed $25. Notwithstanding section 609.531, a firearm carried in violation of this paragraph is not subject to forfeiture.

I know that on the Wright County Sheriffs site it states:

19. Do I need to notify the Sheriff’s Office when I move?
Yes. A permit holder is required to notify the issuing sheriff’s office within 30 days of a permanent address change. Failure to do so is a petty misdemeanor.

20. Does the address on my permit to carry need to match the address on my drivers license?
No. However, the permit holder may obtain an updated permit at a cost of $10.00.

So I will legally be carrying with a PTC with address "A" and Driver's License with address "B".

http://www.co.wright.mn.us/department/s ... rry.asp#20

This is where I'm mistaken, I have purchased numerous guns with this scenario, BUT, denied at Gander MT.

[ArtVandelay]

Basically since

Under MN law, handgun transfers involve any sale, gift, loan, assignment, or other delivery to another person. If you possess a valid permit to carry a pistol, that permit constitutes a permit to purchase. You do not need to apply for a separate permit to purchase. However, there is nothing that prohibits you from obtaining both permits if you desire.

And even though my PTC and DL numbers do not match (stated that they don't need to but if i spend $10 I can get a new card) my PTC is valid which constitutes a permit to purchase. Maybe someone with an FFL or knowledge of the law can tell me why Gander Mt denied me from purchasing my gun. I had just purchased another gun last Friday from a reputable LGS with no issues.

[Thunderjohn]

They have a lot of their own little quirks.
They won't transfer a firearm with a delay even after the 3 business days have passed, even though legal.
They won't allow you to use Postal abbreviations on the Form 4473 even though it states on the form that Postal abbreviations
are ok.
You're fine, but I'd still spend the $10 and get my permit updated to save other hassles by some that don't know the laws.

[ArtVandelay]

They have a lot of their own little quirks.
They won't transfer a firearm with a delay even after the 3 business days have passed, even though legal.
They won't allow you to use Postal abbreviations on the Form 4473 even though it states on the form that Postal abbreviations
are ok.
You're fine, but I'd still spend the $10 and get my permit updated to save other hassles by some that don't know the laws.

Thanks for the explanation, I figured it was a "Gander Mountain" policy. Their employees really need to realize the difference between LAW and STORE POLICY. Not happy with the way i was treated either right or wrong. I will spend the $10 on a new permit. Thanks John

[tman]

Was the $10 you tried to save yourself worth the hassle you just went through?

Have any advice for the next guy who wants to save $10?


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[IDPA Shooter]

+ 1. You don't have to produce photo ID to use a credit card either, is it worth arguing about, not to me. The person in front if me at Best Buy felt it was a " serious violation of her rights". Yeah right, go buy it Amazon and move along please....

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[Nalez]

As others have stated; if you have moved within the last 30 days; you are "valid" with your PTC. You also have 30 days to get the new address on your drivers license

A side node that has been brought up before - the address on a PTP does NOT need to match the address on your drivers license according to state law - only the full legal name.

[Spike]

Was the $10 you tried to save yourself worth the hassle you just went through?

Have any advice for the next guy who wants to save $10?


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Yea. Don't shop at Gander.

[infidel]

Ten dollars, hassle free.

[AR-15collector]

As others have stated; if you have moved within the last 30 days; you are "valid" with your PTC. You also have 30 days to get the new address on your drivers license

A side node that has been brought up before - the address on a PTP does NOT need to match the address on your drivers license according to state law - only the full legal name.

Interesting, my street name was off by only one letter from my ptp to my license (license was wrong, had an e at the end instead of a d and FF, Cabelas and Gander would not let me buy. Ended up moving a month later and decided to go through my PTC classes rather than only renew my ptp.

Now that I live on a numbered street rather than a named street there's zero issues with matching.

[EAJuggalo]

I think we have a little confusion on what is legally required to be done when one moves. The only requirement in the law is notification of the issuing sheriff, how one does that is not specified, nor is there a requirement to obtain a new card at a cost. I know Hennepin County used to tell people that came in to notify in person that they had to pay the $10 and get a new card.

Now as far as the OP, Gander was well within their rights to refuse you service if they thought there was something hinky about your paperwork. And you are well within your rights to choose like a lot of us have, to not do business with Gander.

[cobb]

If the address on the permit to carry does not match the address on the identification such as the Minnesota drivers license, Cabelas and Scheels will not sell. My understanding is that they want to avoid any hassles when audited by the ATF. Is this 100% with all dealers, don't think so, but have also been told by a few smaller dealers that they want the info to match. It was a topic of discussion with the sales person at Cabelas when I purchased an AR-15 awhile back, Cabelas would not proceed with sale if the info on my documentation did not match. Also had this discussion with a sales person in the gun department at Scheels, info does not match and they will not go through with the sale.

So notifying the issuing sheriff within 30 days of the change of address and you are good to carry, but in many cases not good to buy.

[unit44justin]

Burnsville pistol will not transfer either if information does not match. I think it is more they are looking to cover their own ass.