Shot show 2018... Exciting new stuff or not?

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Re: Shot show 2018... Exciting new stuff or not?

Postby UnaStamus on Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:23 pm

Leupold introduced their Mark5 line. Sounds like it’s not illuminated, though. Not sure how I feel about that...
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Re: Shot show 2018... Exciting new stuff or not?

Postby hard h2o on Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:08 pm

Just saw a video of this from the SHOT SHow:

RUGER PRECISION RIMFIRE

https://www.ruger.com/products/precisionRimfire/models.html

That looks pretty cool.
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Re: Shot show 2018... Exciting new stuff or not?

Postby Holland&Holland on Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:17 pm

hard h2o wrote:Just saw a video of this from the SHOT SHow:

RUGER PRECISION RIMFIRE

https://www.ruger.com/products/precisionRimfire/models.html

That looks pretty cool.

It has been on their site for several weeks
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Re: Shot show 2018... Exciting new stuff or not?

Postby BigDog58 on Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:34 pm

hard h2o wrote:Just saw a video of this from the SHOT SHow:

RUGER PRECISION RIMFIRE

https://www.ruger.com/products/precisionRimfire/models.html

That looks pretty cool.


I can't see why it has a 30 MOA Rail on it?
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Re: Shot show 2018... Exciting new stuff or not?

Postby hard h2o on Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:35 pm

BigDog58 wrote:
I can't see why it has a 30 MOA Rail on it?


That seemed strange to me as well.
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Re: Shot show 2018... Exciting new stuff or not?

Postby FJ540 on Thu Jan 25, 2018 2:39 am

hard h2o wrote:
BigDog58 wrote:
I can't see why it has a 30 MOA Rail on it?


That seemed strange to me as well.


Because a 1300fps 36gr bullet falls like a rock at 500yds? ;)
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Re: Shot show 2018... Exciting new stuff or not?

Postby BigDog58 on Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:40 am

FJ540 wrote:
hard h2o wrote:
BigDog58 wrote:
I can't see why it has a 30 MOA Rail on it?


That seemed strange to me as well.


Because a 1300fps 36gr bullet falls like a rock at 500yds? ;)



There's going to be some PO'd people if they don't see that, and make sure their scope has enough Elevation Travel, when they try to zero at 50 or 100 yds :shock:
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Re: Shot show 2018... Exciting new stuff or not?

Postby FJ540 on Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:01 am

Nikon's p-22 has 80 MOA of adjustment.
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Re: Shot show 2018... Exciting new stuff or not?

Postby Rip Van Winkle on Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:08 am

BigDog58 wrote:I can't see why it has a 30 MOA Rail on it?

Because when you shoot smallbore at 200 yards you need 24moa of elevation. ;)
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Re: Shot show 2018... Exciting new stuff or not?

Postby hard h2o on Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:06 pm

Rip Van Winkle wrote:
BigDog58 wrote:I can't see why it has a 30 MOA Rail on it?

Because when you shoot smallbore at 200 yards you need 24moa of elevation. ;)


Guess to a plinker like me it seems strange. I have to lose the mindset that the rimfires are for more than aerating cans and squirrels.

To someone who might actually use the feature it is perfectly in line with the design of the firearm.

Thanks for the insight.
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Re: Shot show 2018... Exciting new stuff or not?

Postby Ironbear on Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:03 pm


Personally I think the Mossberg 464 SPX still has it beat for ugly... but that's not a shotgun...
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Shot show 2018... Exciting new stuff or not?

Postby gun_fan111v2 on Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:14 pm

New Ruger carbine is not going to win any beauty awards either...

https://ruger.com/products/pcCarbine/models.html
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Re: Shot show 2018... Exciting new stuff or not?

Postby photogpat on Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:46 pm

Holland&Holland wrote:
photogpat wrote:I can confirm that the detachable mag pump shotguns (Mossberg and Remington) can pinch your hand between the mag and pump...leading to short stroking.


Design deficiency or more training issue? I would imagine if the forearm is held further forward this does not occur?


Remington's wasn't as bad as the Magpul fore-end has a bit of a handstop at the rear. Mossberg's does not. I'm going with design deficiency. Under duress or stress...guys already are known to short stroke a pump action...now we have a device where hand placement is key? Not sold on it.

Adaptive Tactical had a pretty sweet detachable barrel/mag tube setup for a Mossberg 500 at their booth -- allowed for takedown of a pump shotgun into 2 pieces at the receiver rather than leaving the magtube in the front of the shotgun.
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Re: Shot show 2018... Exciting new stuff or not?

Postby crbutler on Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:34 pm

Since I have no access to SHOT except through the media, who I view as being slightly less honorable than prostitutes, I will wait until I actually see and get to handle some of these things before declaring if something excites me.

The DBM thing is typical behind the curve marketing. DBM custom autoloading shotguns are relatively common in 3 gun. Their only real advantage is when you get into a game where rapid reloading is necessary. While I can see tactics evolving that would make it useful in combat, with the exception of riot suppression I can’t see any real need for DBM shotguns in the real world for civilians (including cops) given that both are responsible for every projectile as far as self defense goes.

I guess I am one of the few gun owners that has the reaction SHOT? Meh.
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Re: Shot show 2018... Exciting new stuff or not?

Postby goosed on Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:37 pm

The ruger precision rimfire does not excite me even though I own and enjoy the RPR. Youtube videos confirmed my fears: plenty of chassis flex and significant bolt slop.

Anschutz NA announced they will offer a 54 sporter action in an fiberglass stock with adjustable cheek riser. Not sure what the fiberglass stocks brings to the table the GRS stocks don't... I guess options are good anyways. MSRP $2700

The tikka T1x is the most exciting rimfire rifle (to me). Sounds like all the things I like about the T3 lineup (at least per accurateshooter.com) just scaled down. MSRP $499, street ~$400

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