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Re: Short range backstop or berm options

PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 4:49 pm
by farmerj
farmerj wrote:
Ghost wrote:
farmerj wrote:Sure ya can. It'll just take you longer.

Our best fishing pond was 2 acres and 18’ deep, lol.



Something that big would change my tactics. It's still a lot cheaper than you think.


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Just a measly $7500 for a weekend to rent one of them. But one bucket of that machine is 22 yards too.

A D6 Caterpiller would run you $1660 delivered and picked up for a weekend. A 320 excavator would be about $2800 for a weekend.

https://www.zieglerrental.com/your-quote/

Having someone come in to do the work. Probably $1000 / hour.

Re: Short range backstop or berm options

PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 11:13 pm
by Holland&Holland
Ghost wrote:
farmerj wrote:Sure ya can. It'll just take you longer.

Our best fishing pond was 2 acres and 18’ deep, lol.

Wouldn't that winter kill out every year?

Re: Short range backstop or berm options

PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:00 am
by FJ540
Holland&Holland wrote:
Ghost wrote:
farmerj wrote:Sure ya can. It'll just take you longer.

Our best fishing pond was 2 acres and 18’ deep, lol.

Wouldn't that winter kill out every year?


Need about 6' deep to keep the bottom open to not have it kill the fish.

Re: Short range backstop or berm options

PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:30 am
by Holland&Holland
FJ540 wrote:
Need about 6' deep to keep the bottom open to not have it kill the fish.


It is about oxygen content, not just open bottom.

Re: Short range backstop or berm options

PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:47 am
by yukonjasper
I own some land and an old farm house out west in Stevens County. We would really like to put a rifle/pistol rang on that property, but really don't know where to start. Thanks for some of this information - good ideas.

Re: Short range backstop or berm options

PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:56 am
by farmerj
NRA, MN DNR and the us army all have some pretty decent range designs available online if your Google Fu is good.

Anything I've looked a includes printing a Google map out to PDF format and then putting a range safety fan on it. CAD software is nice for that.

Re: Short range backstop or berm options

PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:01 am
by Ghost
Holland&Holland wrote:
FJ540 wrote:
Need about 6' deep to keep the bottom open to not have it kill the fish.


It is about oxygen content, not just open bottom.


The pond had constantly flowing water through it, we also ran an aerator. Had to do something to keep the large mouth, hybrid stripers, bluegill, crappie, catfish and walleye alive. Also helps keep the moss and algae down in the summer.

Re: Short range backstop or berm options

PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:13 am
by Rip Van Winkle
yukonjasper wrote:I own some land and an old farm house out west in Stevens County. We would really like to put a rifle/pistol rang on that property, but really don't know where to start. Thanks for some of this information - good ideas.

Here's where you start. http://materials.nrahq.org/2012-nra-range-source-book-on-cd-rom.html
And from MDNR http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/destinations/shooting_ranges/outdoor_shooting_best_practices.pdf

Re: Short range backstop or berm options

PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:11 pm
by wasfuzz
FJ540 wrote:The real deal ones are a mere $700 each! :shock: :rotf:

You got that wrong I just got of the phone with them, we are planning on using them for our range. The mil10 is 7.5 ft tall and 10 ft long come in a connected string to complete a 100 ft and cost $4700 plus shipping. The mil 3 which is 3x3 ft is $675.

Re: Short range backstop or berm options

PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:08 pm
by FJ540
Donn, either of those would be ridiculously expensive on my intended scale.

Since I already have the tractor, I'll be starting with stump removal and then going from there. I started digging my pond with the tractor, but got down into the water table and was unable to extract a full 3/4yd bucket full without sinking the front axle. That's when I rented the mini-ex and got to work. 8-)

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Re: Short range backstop or berm options

PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:16 pm
by FJ540
A couple days later, we were filling up nicely.

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Re: Short range backstop or berm options

PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:23 pm
by xd ED

Re: Short range backstop or berm options

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:23 pm
by FJ540
Ready for the snow to melt so I can get to work. :mrgreen:

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Re: Short range backstop or berm options

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:15 pm
by Holland&Holland
Cool shot :)

Re: Short range backstop or berm options

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:15 pm
by Scratch
You get a drone, or learn to fly?