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Re: Bump fire stocks

Postby Ghost on Sun Dec 30, 2018 4:25 pm

bstrawse wrote:
Ghost wrote:So what’s th strategy to fend off a bumpstock ruling in this state? Obviously it’s dependent on the feds losing their battle.

I still think it comes down to the trigger activator vs finger. If the finger is all that’s needed then I am a trigger activator and should be banned.


A ruling "in this state" would have to be about MN's existing trigger activator law. The federal cases over the bump stock ban are a whole different story.

No one has been arrested and charged with using a trigger activator in Minnesota, so let's keep that from happening.

Stopping a legislative bill to ban bump stocks will be handled through our regular process of stopping legislation. It starts with making sure folks are on our mailing list and getting our action alerts

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Re: Bump fire stocks

Postby Ghost on Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:27 am

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Re: Bump fire stocks

Postby Ironbear on Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:32 pm

Ghost wrote:

Hah! To even get it to work... he has to violate his principles of speed, control and accuracy!
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Re: Bump fire stocks

Postby Ghost on Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:54 pm

Just received this email from slidefire. Get ‘em while they are legal.

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Re: Bump fire stocks

Postby Holland&Holland on Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:00 pm

Ironbear wrote:
Ghost wrote:

Hah! To even get it to work... he has to violate his principles of speed, control and accuracy!

Not to mention he won't be making any shots of any distance without a rear sight.
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Re: Bump fire stocks

Postby Ghost on Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:08 pm

http://www.sdslaw.us/single-post/2019/02/08/Today-we-filed-the-Reply-in-the-Bumpstock-case-regarding-our-Motion-for-Preliminary-Injunction

Today we filed the Reply in the Bumpstock case regarding our Motion for Preliminary Injunction
2019-02-09
You can read the filing here. What we demonstrated is that the governments' position that a bumpstock is a machinegun is arbitrary, capricious and unsupported in the law. An analogy was made that if a bumpstock is a machinegun, then a manual transmission must be an automatic transmission using the same logic presented to us by the government defendants.

The Court (in DC) set this for a hearing on February 19, 2019 at 3PM.
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Re: Bump fire stocks

Postby Holland&Holland on Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:12 pm

Ghost wrote:http://www.sdslaw.us/single-post/2019/02/08/Today-we-filed-the-Reply-in-the-Bumpstock-case-regarding-our-Motion-for-Preliminary-Injunction

Today we filed the Reply in the Bumpstock case regarding our Motion for Preliminary Injunction
2019-02-09
You can read the filing here. What we demonstrated is that the governments' position that a bumpstock is a machinegun is arbitrary, capricious and unsupported in the law. An analogy was made that if a bumpstock is a machinegun, then a manual transmission must be an automatic transmission using the same logic presented to us by the government defendants.

The Court (in DC) set this for a hearing on February 19, 2019 at 3PM.


I would hope we have a better argument than that.
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Re: Bump fire stocks

Postby Ghost on Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:31 pm

Holland&Holland wrote:
Ghost wrote:http://www.sdslaw.us/single-post/2019/02/08/Today-we-filed-the-Reply-in-the-Bumpstock-case-regarding-our-Motion-for-Preliminary-Injunction

Today we filed the Reply in the Bumpstock case regarding our Motion for Preliminary Injunction
2019-02-09
You can read the filing here. What we demonstrated is that the governments' position that a bumpstock is a machinegun is arbitrary, capricious and unsupported in the law. An analogy was made that if a bumpstock is a machinegun, then a manual transmission must be an automatic transmission using the same logic presented to us by the government defendants.

The Court (in DC) set this for a hearing on February 19, 2019 at 3PM.


I would hope we have a better argument than that.

They are throwing the kitchen sink at them. Every angle.
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Re: Bump fire stocks

Postby Ghost on Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:07 am

Holland&Holland wrote:
Ghost wrote:http://www.sdslaw.us/single-post/2019/02/08/Today-we-filed-the-Reply-in-the-Bumpstock-case-regarding-our-Motion-for-Preliminary-Injunction

Today we filed the Reply in the Bumpstock case regarding our Motion for Preliminary Injunction
2019-02-09
You can read the filing here. What we demonstrated is that the governments' position that a bumpstock is a machinegun is arbitrary, capricious and unsupported in the law. An analogy was made that if a bumpstock is a machinegun, then a manual transmission must be an automatic transmission using the same logic presented to us by the government defendants.

The Court (in DC) set this for a hearing on February 19, 2019 at 3PM.


I would hope we have a better argument than that.

Apparently the link the the response doesn’t show on mobile. Here’s what they submitted.

http://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/c601ae_ba58585ec6754dfd8281d48bcbd7a27d.pdf
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Re: Bump fire stocks

Postby Grayskies on Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:23 pm

Bump stock inventor warns owners against waiving rights when they turn them in
William L. Akins, inventor of the Akins Accelerator, says those turning in bump stocks should be wary of any forms saying they’re relinquishing their rights to the property, and that they can ask for a property receipt signaling that while they have turned over the device, they still have an ownership stake in it.

Should the courts side with gun owners in their challenges to the new rules banning bump stocks, the device owners then have a chance to get their property back — or to at least be compensated.

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Re: Bump fire stocks

Postby Holland&Holland on Sun Mar 24, 2019 1:34 pm

Grayskies wrote:Bump stock inventor warns owners against waiving rights when they turn them in
William L. Akins, inventor of the Akins Accelerator, says those turning in bump stocks should be wary of any forms saying they’re relinquishing their rights to the property, and that they can ask for a property receipt signaling that while they have turned over the device, they still have an ownership stake in it.

Should the courts side with gun owners in their challenges to the new rules banning bump stocks, the device owners then have a chance to get their property back — or to at least be compensated.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... ock-inven/


Just wait until housing private ownership is no longer allowed. ;)
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Re: Bump fire stocks

Postby Grayskies on Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:24 pm

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Re: Bump fire stocks

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Re: Bump fire stocks

Postby Holland&Holland on Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:19 pm

So anybody have to turn one in today?
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Re: Bump fire stocks

Postby Grayskies on Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:54 pm

Holland&Holland wrote:So anybody have to turn one in today?

Nope, tho I figure they will have a 3d printed version soon. :P
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