NICS checks required again PTC not good enough

[wasfuzz]

On another board there was discussion as to if it was factual or not. See the response I received from the ATF;
aint that a kick in the Nuts!!

Mr. Browne,

You heard correctly; the MN Permit to carry [u]no longer qualifies in lieu of a NICS check[/u]. We do not have any official guidance/announcements available at this time.


Denise Mangini (McAdams)
Senior Industry Operations Investigator
St. Paul II, IO
651-726-0220
651-726-0221 (fax)





From: browne56065@gmail.com <browne56065@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2018 6:30 PM
To: St. Paul Division Mailbox <StPaulDiv@atf.gov>
Subject: NICS checks nessary with a MN Permit to Carry

Last year we received notification that MN Permit to Carry satisfied the background check to purchase a handgun, now we have heard – but no one has seen documentation that that is not factual. At a Gun Show in St Paul this weekend it was announced to dealers that all sales required a NICS check. Can you shed some light on the issue please?
Thank You,
Donn Browne

[Bearcatrp]

When I purchased a bolt rifle last month, needed my PTC and waited for the NCIS check to be completed.

[Holland&Holland]

You expected better from the Almost Trained Flubs?

[silvor]

; the MN Permit to carry [u]no longer qualifies in lieu of a NICS check[/u]. We do not have any official guidance/announcements available at this time.

Did a MN carry permit ever take the place of a NICS check? I thought the carry permit was in lieu of a PTP. A dealer still runs a NICS check no matter a carry or PTP.

[Holland&Holland]

; the MN Permit to carry [u]no longer qualifies in lieu of a NICS check[/u]. We do not have any official guidance/announcements available at this time.

Did a MN carry permit ever take the place of a NICS check? I thought the carry permit was in lieu of a PTP. A dealer still runs a NICS check no matter a carry or PTP.

No for a short time if your permit was new enough it qualified for the NICS.

[wasfuzz]

; the MN Permit to carry [u]no longer qualifies in lieu of a NICS check[/u]. We do not have any official guidance/announcements available at this time.

Did a MN carry permit ever take the place of a NICS check? I thought the carry permit was in lieu of a PTP. A dealer still runs a NICS check no matter a carry or PTP.

No for a short time if your permit was new enough it qualified for the NICS.

It was good enough for about 12 months and then its not!

[wasfuzz]

You expected better from the Almost Trained Flubs?

Prior to my departure from LE we called them "After The Fact" - cause they didn't show up until AFTER something happened!

[Ghost]

Damn, I was hoping to use that. Just dropped off my renewal today.

[Erud]

You expected better from the Almost Trained Flubs?

Prior to my departure from LE we called them "After The Fact" - cause they didn't show up until AFTER something happened!

No offense intended, but isn’t that the generally case with any type of law enforcement?

[Ghost]

You expected better from the Almost Trained Flubs?

Prior to my departure from LE we called them "After The Fact" - cause they didn't show up until AFTER something happened!

No offense intended, but isn’t that the generally case with any type of law enforcement?

Typically crime historians

[grimbeaver]

Damn, I was hoping to use that. Just dropped off my renewal today.

Ditto. Just got my new one recently.