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Decals at Lowes

Postby westhope on Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:19 am

I saw these 2 decals at Lowes yesterday. The green one surprised me! I think they were $2.48 each. (I would have preferred the wording was "welcome" not "permitted" on both.) They measure 4" x 5".

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Re: Decals at Lowes

Postby LarryFlew on Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:40 am

Neither is legal size for MN but i Do like the green idea.
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Re: Decals at Lowes

Postby Holland&Holland on Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:45 am

LarryFlew wrote:Neither is legal size for MN but i Do like the green idea.


I thought legal did not matter anymore? They have to inform you to not carry or leave, if you refuse you are trespassing. Signs have no force of law correct?
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Re: Decals at Lowes

Postby Ghost on Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:48 am

Concealed is concealed. ;)
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Re: Decals at Lowes

Postby Holland&Holland on Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:52 am

Ghost wrote:Concealed is concealed. ;)


Yup
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Re: Decals at Lowes

Postby LarryFlew on Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:05 pm

Holland&Holland wrote:
LarryFlew wrote:Neither is legal size for MN but i Do like the green idea.


I thought legal did not matter anymore? They have to inform you to not carry or leave, if you refuse you are trespassing. Signs have no force of law correct?


Signs never had the force of law but do have specific size and letter in MN law.

a reasonable request requires (1) the posting of a sign, or (2) that the private establishment “personally informs” the person that guns are prohibited in the premises and demands compliance.

The sign must be 187 square inches in area. This includes an 11-inch-by- 17-inch sign, but it could also be other dimensions, as long as it is of the required area. The background of the sign must be “bright.”

The lettering must be black Arial typeface at least 1.5 inches in height. The lettering must contrast with the background of the sign.

The sign must indicate the identity of the operator of the private establishment and state that the operator “BANS GUNS IN THESE PREMISES.” For example: “ACME ANVILS, INC., BANS GUNS IN THESE PREMISES.”
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Re: Decals at Lowes

Postby photogpat on Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:38 pm

LarryFlew wrote:
Holland&Holland wrote:
LarryFlew wrote:Neither is legal size for MN but i Do like the green idea.


I thought legal did not matter anymore? They have to inform you to not carry or leave, if you refuse you are trespassing. Signs have no force of law correct?


Signs never had the force of law but do have specific size and letter in MN law.

a reasonable request requires (1) the posting of a sign, or (2) that the private establishment “personally informs” the person that guns are prohibited in the premises and demands compliance.

The sign must be 187 square inches in area. This includes an 11-inch-by- 17-inch sign, but it could also be other dimensions, as long as it is of the required area. The background of the sign must be “bright.”

The lettering must be black Arial typeface at least 1.5 inches in height. The lettering must contrast with the background of the sign.

The sign must indicate the identity of the operator of the private establishment and state that the operator “BANS GUNS IN THESE PREMISES.” For example: “ACME ANVILS, INC., BANS GUNS IN THESE PREMISES.”


You’re forgetting the “demand compliance” part of it. Yes, the “reasonable request” is the sign - but they must personally demand compliance with it. Remaining AFTER they demand compliance is the violation. Rightly so.

The signs are effectively irrelevant as you have to comply with the compliance demand regardless of signage.
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Re: Decals at Lowes

Postby Ghost on Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:56 pm

photogpat wrote:The signs are effectively irrelevant as you have to comply with the compliance demand regardless of signage.

Yep
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Re: Decals at Lowes

Postby Holland&Holland on Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:52 pm

Yup yup
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Re: Decals at Lowes

Postby Sorcerer on Mon Jan 21, 2019 6:55 pm

I kinda like the “ no guns allowed”. Helps me know that I should not support such establishments. Or snicker that sead establishments think it makes them a safer place. As I go in. I've actually took up space in such establishments, and not opened my wallet.
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Re: Decals at Lowes

Postby Ghost on Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:01 pm

Sorcerer wrote:I kinda like the “ no guns allowed”. Helps me know that I should not support such establishments. Or snicker that sead establishments think it makes them a safer place. As I go in. I've actually took up space in such establishments, and not opened my wallet.

Do you let them know why you didn’t spend money before you left?
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Re: Decals at Lowes

Postby Sorcerer on Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:42 pm

Nope. Leave them guessing.
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Re: Decals at Lowes

Postby Erud on Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:14 am

Sorcerer wrote:Nope. Leave them guessing.


That'll teach 'em!
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Re: Decals at Lowes

Postby Ghost on Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:18 am

Erud wrote:
Sorcerer wrote:Nope. Leave them guessing.


That'll teach 'em!

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