Shot show 2019

[xd ED]

I'm interested in hearing more about Franklin Armorys Providence. The non semi auto AR:

I could only understand about every third word spoken, but this appears to be the answer to a question no one would ever ask.

[Ghost]

Winchester's new .350 legend

If it runs good, I may have just found my next AR build.

Me too

#metoo?

[Holland&Holland]

#metoo?[/quote]
AR me too

It's a new movement, only the cool kids know about it.

[Holland&Holland]

I'm interested in hearing more about Franklin Armorys Providence. The non semi auto AR:

I could only understand about every third word spoken, but this appears to be the answer to a question no one would ever ask.

Maybe a hedge for if semi autos get banned?

[Rip Van Winkle]

Maybe a hedge for if semi autos get banned?

It will take about 5 seconds for the anti's to add this to their list.

In fact, I would wager that legally speaking, with the action being manipulated via trigger pull, this would be considered a semi-auto.

[Ghost]

Oh I forgot the TNVC powered PVS14 bridge looked very interesting.

[xd ED]

Maybe a hedge for if semi autos get banned?

Reading up a little on this:

https://www.ammoland.com/2019/01/how-the-providence-non-semi-automatic-pistol-works-shot-show-2019/#ixzz5eHruaDSa

....The firearm was said to utilize a digital action, and to fire one round with each pull of the trigger.....

This is the essential definition of a semi-automatic action

The firing sequence is this.

The firearm starts with an empty chamber or a fired case in the chamber.
Pulling the trigger unlocks the bolt, retracts the bolt and bolt carrier, and ejects the fired case if there is one.
The trigger continues to retract the bolt carrier and the bolt, until the trigger releases both.
Then the bolt and bolt carrier move forward, stripping a round from the magazine and chambering it.
The bolt carrier continues forward, rotating and locking the bolt.
There is a fixed firing pin on the bolt carrier. The bolt carrier continues forward. The firing pin on the bolt carrier impacts the primer, firing the chambered round. The fired case stays in the chamber, locked in by the bolt.
The sequence begins again with another pull of the trigger.
An advantage of the system, firing from a locked bolt, would be to take full advantage of a suppressor. There is no gas leakage to the rear of the fired case. No gas or powder fouling is introduced into the action.

Since there is no mention of any stored energy (spring) released when the trigger is pressed, one has to assume an extremely heavy (and/ or very long) trigger to manipulate the action's sequence.


As far as getting around the ATF, if they can call a rifle stock a machine-gun, this thing might well become a nuclear weapon.

[Holland&Holland]

Maybe a hedge for if semi autos get banned?

Reading up a little on this:

https://www.ammoland.com/2019/01/how-the-providence-non-semi-automatic-pistol-works-shot-show-2019/#ixzz5eHruaDSa

....The firearm was said to utilize a digital action, and to fire one round with each pull of the trigger.....

This is the essential definition of a semi-automatic action

The firing sequence is this.

The firearm starts with an empty chamber or a fired case in the chamber.
Pulling the trigger unlocks the bolt, retracts the bolt and bolt carrier, and ejects the fired case if there is one.
The trigger continues to retract the bolt carrier and the bolt, until the trigger releases both.
Then the bolt and bolt carrier move forward, stripping a round from the magazine and chambering it.
The bolt carrier continues forward, rotating and locking the bolt.
There is a fixed firing pin on the bolt carrier. The bolt carrier continues forward. The firing pin on the bolt carrier impacts the primer, firing the chambered round. The fired case stays in the chamber, locked in by the bolt.
The sequence begins again with another pull of the trigger.
An advantage of the system, firing from a locked bolt, would be to take full advantage of a suppressor. There is no gas leakage to the rear of the fired case. No gas or powder fouling is introduced into the action.

Since there is no mention of any stored energy (spring) released when the trigger is pressed, one has to assume an extremely heavy (and/ or very long) trigger to manipulate the action's sequence.


As far as getting around the ATF, if they can call a rifle stock a machine-gun, this thing might well become a nuclear weapon.

I am not saying it is a good attempt, just that it is an attempt.

[Rowdy Roddy]

Maybe a hedge for if semi autos get banned?

It will take about 5 seconds for the anti's to add this to their list.

In fact, I would wager that legally speaking, with the action being manipulated via trigger pull, this would be considered a semi-auto.

By that reasoning, a revolver could be considered semi-auto, no?

[Rip Van Winkle]

By that reasoning, a revolver could be considered semi-auto, no?

We're talking nanny state government here. It doesn't have to make sense.

[Ghost]

It will take about 5 seconds for the anti's to add this to their list.

In fact, I would wager that legally speaking, with the action being manipulated via trigger pull, this would be considered a semi-auto.

By that reasoning, a revolver could be considered semi-auto, no?

Isn’t it? (Double action)

[Holland&Holland]

It will take about 5 seconds for the anti's to add this to their list.

In fact, I would wager that legally speaking, with the action being manipulated via trigger pull, this would be considered a semi-auto.

By that reasoning, a revolver could be considered semi-auto, no?

Isn’t it? (Double action)

Is a double barrel shotgun a semi-auto then?

[xd ED]

Is a double barrel shotgun a semi-auto then?

I think 'self-loading' needs to occur.
Plus being scary in appearance is implicit.

[Holland&Holland]

Is a double barrel shotgun a semi-auto then?

I think 'self-loading' needs to occur.
Plus being scary in appearance is implicit.

Oh I can make it look scary

What if it is Vierling?

[goosed]

CZ 457 22lr looks interesting since the Tikka t1x from last year's SHOT still isn't readily available.