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SO are we a gun forum or just a group of crotchety folks that talk about the weather?

I have seen no one posting anything about the shot show. Come on guys what have you seen that excites you?

I am intrigued by Winchester's new .350 legend, I like the ballistics and the fact it uses a .223 head, unfortunately, with no taper and head spacing on the case mouth I am not thinking it will be a good AR cartridge but something similar would be lights out on deer with a suppressor in the MN woods. Maybe my next wildcat project?

Holland&Holland wrote:SO are we a gun forum or just a group of crotchety folks that talk about the weather?

I have seen no one posting anything about the shot show. Come on guys what have you seen that excites you?

I am intrigued by Winchester's new .350 legend, I like the ballistics and the fact it uses a .223 head, unfortunately, with no taper and head spacing on the case mouth I am not thinking it will be a good AR cartridge but something similar would be lights out on deer with a suppressor in the MN woods. Maybe my next wildcat project?

Minnesota doesn't have a straight wall rifle cartridge exception for deer hunting zones. .350 Legend is pretty specific for that application (at least until places like Ohio start passing performance based regs - in which case it's an obsolete cartridge overnight). You have WAY better rifle cartridge options ballistically speaking for rifle deer hunting here in MN.

The kel-tec cp33 looks like a lot of fun. If they function reliably and I can find one for a decent price I'll definitely be getting one.

photogpat wrote:

Holland&Holland wrote:SO are we a gun forum or just a group of crotchety folks that talk about the weather?

I have seen no one posting anything about the shot show. Come on guys what have you seen that excites you?

I am intrigued by Winchester's new .350 legend, I like the ballistics and the fact it uses a .223 head, unfortunately, with no taper and head spacing on the case mouth I am not thinking it will be a good AR cartridge but something similar would be lights out on deer with a suppressor in the MN woods. Maybe my next wildcat project?

Minnesota doesn't have a straight wall rifle cartridge exception for deer hunting zones. .350 Legend is pretty specific for that application (at least until places like Ohio start passing performance based regs - in which case it's an obsolete cartridge overnight). You have WAY better rifle cartridge options ballistically speaking for rifle deer hunting here in MN.

I agree in its current specifications it is a boutique cartridge that will soon be obsolete and I get why they brought it to market. I would contend though that for mn woods deer hunting it is about ideal ballistics.

I would love to replicate it in an AR

Of course I have also dreamed of a .357 Herrett in a revolver so I am weird I know

I thought I was going to be in Vegas for a work concern and was scrambling to figure out how to get into the exhibit hall. They really regulate the heck out of that event. Turns out my dates changed, so I dropped my pursuit, but the vetting process is pretty rigorous.
This looked interesting:

Tactical Solutions Pac-Lite TSS Integrally Suppressed Upper

TacSol Pac-Lite TSS Integrally Suppressed Upper

For an amazingly quiet shooting experience, an integrally suppressed .22 LR gun is a great way to go. For 2019, the TacSol PAC-LITE TSS might be one of the best guns for teaching noise adverse shooters, introducing kids to shooting and for handling pests without disturbing the neighborhood.

The PAC-LITE TSS is an upper designed for the Ruger Mark I, II and III and the 22/45 pistols. With the integral suppressor, the unit weighs only 11 ounces. The upper has a 3.5″ barrel (bore length) with a 12.75″ overall length. The upper is made from aluminum while the interlocking baffles are made of titanium with a stainless steel split tube. Installation is easy and no gunsmithing is needed. Yes, the assembly can be disassembled for cleaning (tool included.)

TacSol includes a front fiber optic sight and a rear adjustable sight. It is also drilled and tapped for adding an optic rail. The MSRP is $599. You will, of course, need a tax stamp.


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Standard Manufacturing S333 Thunderstruck

Standard S333 Thunderstruck

Standard Manufacturing announced a new revolver that looks very different, has two barrels and claims to fire “2 rounds simultaneously.” The new S333 (this is different from the Brownie-like S333 prototype the company showed at previous SHOT Shows) presumably doesn’t meet the US federal law definition of a machine gun. I’m not an NFA expert, so I’ll just give you the details on the gun as they are presented by the company.

The gun is a compact revolver chambered for the .22 WMR cartridge. It holds 8 rounds in the cylinder and has two barrels. Instead of a normal trigger guard, this weapon has a partial guard with a shallow W shaped trigger. Oddly, the trigger has Glock-like trigger safety on its face.

Both the 1.25″ barrels and cylinder are made of steel while the frame is crafted from 7075 anodized aluminum. Unloaded, the gun weighs 18 ounces. Both of the hammers are contained within the gun’s housing. The suggested retail price will be $369.

The company claims “THESE REVOLVERS ARE FAR MORE SUPERIOR TO ANY OTHER AUTOMATIC PISTOL WHICH ARE RENDERED USELESS WHEN THEY JAM OR MISFIRE.” Your mileage may vary.


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Holland&Holland wrote:I would love to replicate it in an AR

I was wondering how it would feed in an AR, but CMMG is marketing one. They had to come up with a new magazine for it.

Jackpine Savage wrote:

Holland&Holland wrote:I would love to replicate it in an AR

I was wondering how it would feed in an AR, but CMMG is marketing one. They had to come up with a new magazine for it.

I am thinking with being a straight walled case it will be tough but I might try it someone markets AR mags and a barrel.

For your enjoyment H&H

I really haven’t seen too much for articles about what’s new at SHOT this year.


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I haven't seen anything that impressed me.

INOR wrote:I really haven’t seen too much for articles about what’s new at SHOT this year.


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Guns America has been doing daily updates

Hi-Point introduced a new pistol. Aren't you all a twitter over it?

Winchester's new .350 legend

If it runs good, I may have just found my next AR build.

Rowdy Roddy wrote:

Winchester's new .350 legend

If it runs good, I may have just found my next AR build.

Me too

I'm interested in hearing more about Franklin Armorys Providence. The non semi auto AR: