T-Mobile Censorship

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Re: T-Mobile Censorship

Postby IvanTheTerribleShot on Tue Jan 19, 2021 12:40 pm

grimbeaver wrote:This site requires a login and does not use SSL. That is extremely rare and very frowned upon. That could very well be the factor causing the block because it is considered a (very high) security risk.

Secondly T-Mobile has nothing to do with "WebSense" (now called Forcepoint) from what I can tell. Do you use your phone for work? Your employer may have forced installation of it on your phone.


I think it was Web Guard, not WebSense: https://www.t-mobile.com/support/plans- ... ent-filter
T-Mobile representative did acknowledge it's their thing after I read her the message on the screen.

If it was employer-related, I would know because I attend my employer IT meetings. My wife's phone does not have anything employer-related, yet it exhibited the same behavior.

I agree that passwords on this site not being encrypted is a terrible security problem.
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Re: T-Mobile Censorship

Postby Holland&Holland on Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:59 pm

Still posting this on a t mobile device on a t mobile network so...

I guess I am special!
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Re: T-Mobile Censorship

Postby BigDog58 on Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:17 am

I too have T-Mobile. The only time I've been blocked going to ANY site that has the word "firearm" or "Gun" has been when I was in the UM Cancer Center Hospital, and was using their Wi-Fi. As soon as I disabled my network connection and switched back to my 4 LGTE system, the blockage went away

This has happened many other times, when try to utilize a businesses open Wi-Fi.

Right now, I'm using my T-Mobile LG-3 phone using my home network, and have Zero issues connecting here, MNGunsite, Armslist, GUNSTOP etc..
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Re: T-Mobile Censorship

Postby BigBlue on Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:05 am

A lot of businesses apply content filters when you use their wifi. That's more acceptable/understandable to me than a phone service provider doing it to customers. If I pay for cell service I expect full open access to the Internet.
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Re: T-Mobile Censorship

Postby akodo on Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:23 am

yukonjasper wrote:I don't understand a lot of how these things work.

All I know is that, unless I'm connected to my home I cannot get to this site.


Okay:

Your home internet is probably a different company than T-mobile

Your phone has two ways of connecting to the internet - the cell-tower system and wi-fi. (do you know how to switch between them? how to turn your phone wi-fi on and off?)

If you have wi-fi at home, your phone likely detects it and connects which bypasses T-mobile.

Be aware that out and about your phone is likely connecting to various wi-fi systems. For a lot of stores and public places they have a 'no porn' blocker put on. But it doesn't block just porn but lots of 'nasty' sites like white hate sites, sites that host videos of cartel killings, etc. A lot of these blockers put all firearms into the 'violent' category and block them

Finally, T-mobile itself might be blocking intentionally or unintentionally. They might have put a 'no porn' block on your phone just as a default that you need to turn off. A bunch of anti-gunners might have gotten together and falsely reported this place as a scammer site, and so T-mobile is blocking.

You need to go to a T-mobile store and ask for assistance.
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Re: T-Mobile Censorship

Postby BigBlue on Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:24 am

akodo wrote:Be aware that out and about your phone is likely connecting to various wi-fi systems.


Why? Unless you specifically connect to a wifi access point at some point in the past your phone is not going to randomly seek out and connect to available access points. If your phone has some type of option like that turn it off! Major security risk to doing something like that.
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Re: T-Mobile Censorship

Postby grimbeaver on Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:46 am

Web Guard is a free service for T-Mobile customers that you can use to help restrict adult content from being seen or accessed by family members under 18 years old.


Web Guard is an opt-in service. Just go disable it on your account:
https://my.t-mobile.com/account/profile ... s/webguard

They have multiple filter levels defined:
Child
Recommended for all ages. Contains little or no sexual content, situation or themes, no strong or coarse language, no alcohol, tobacco or drug use, and no gambling. Some websites may contain minimal cartoon or fantasy violence.

Teen
Recommended for ages 13 and up. May contain mild/infrequent violence, sexual content, situations or themes, profanity or crude humor, alcohol, tobacco or drug use, and simulated gambling.

Young Adult
Recommended for ages 17 and up. Content may contain frequent or intense graphic violence, sexual content, profanity and crude humor.

No Restriction
Provides a completely open and unrestricted browsing experience.
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Re: T-Mobile Censorship

Postby yukonjasper on Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:56 am

That is my beef. I did not activate it and when I look at the settings, it does not show that it is active. Double secret probation.
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Re: T-Mobile Censorship

Postby Holland&Holland on Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:10 am

yukonjasper wrote:That is my beef. I did not activate it and when I look at the settings, it does not show that it is active. Double secret probation.

You must be on their list. :twisted:
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Re: T-Mobile Censorship

Postby yukonjasper on Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:07 am

The ceo of T-Mobile is a giant liberal. Donates to all the liberal candidates and causes. I intend to pay my phone off and go searching for a new carrier. I doubt I will find one that shares my conservative interests.

Open to suggestions.....
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Re: T-Mobile Censorship

Postby Holland&Holland on Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:35 am

yukonjasper wrote:The ceo of T-Mobile is a giant liberal. Donates to all the liberal candidates and causes. I intend to pay my phone off and go searching for a new carrier. I doubt I will find one that shares my conservative interests.

Open to suggestions.....


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Re: T-Mobile Censorship

Postby ex-LT on Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:53 am

yukonjasper wrote:The ceo of T-Mobile is a giant liberal. Donates to all the liberal candidates and causes. I intend to pay my phone off and go searching for a new carrier. I doubt I will find one that shares my conservative interests.

Open to suggestions.....

Patriot Mobile?
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Re: T-Mobile Censorship

Postby grimbeaver on Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:24 pm

ex-LT wrote:
yukonjasper wrote:The ceo of T-Mobile is a giant liberal. Donates to all the liberal candidates and causes. I intend to pay my phone off and go searching for a new carrier. I doubt I will find one that shares my conservative interests.

Open to suggestions.....

Patriot Mobile?

Patriot Mobile is an MVNO operating on the T-Mobile (formerly Sprint) network.

There are only 3 now. Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile. Anyone else is a MVNO.

A mobile virtual network operator (MVNO) is a wireless communications services provider that does not own the wireless network infrastructure over which it provides services to its customers. An MVNO enters into a business agreement with a mobile network operator to obtain bulk access to network services at wholesale rates, then sets retail prices independently.
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Re: T-Mobile Censorship

Postby IvanTheTerribleShot on Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:04 pm

grimbeaver wrote:
Web Guard is a free service for T-Mobile customers that you can use to help restrict adult content from being seen or accessed by family members under 18 years old.


Web Guard is an opt-in service. Just go disable it on your account:
https://my.t-mobile.com/account/profile ... s/webguard


The point is, mine (and others') was off the whole time, and yet I got blocked. I am convinced that this one time it was unintentional brief glitch on the side of T-Mobile, and it acted clumsily.
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Re: T-Mobile Censorship

Postby Holland&Holland on Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:48 pm

IvanTheTerribleShot wrote:
grimbeaver wrote:
Web Guard is a free service for T-Mobile customers that you can use to help restrict adult content from being seen or accessed by family members under 18 years old.


Web Guard is an opt-in service. Just go disable it on your account:
https://my.t-mobile.com/account/profile ... s/webguard


The point is, mine (and others') was off the whole time, and yet I got blocked. I am convinced that this one time it was unintentional brief glitch on the side of T-Mobile, and it acted clumsily.

Throw it in the lake. That will solve it.
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