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Postby Holland&Holland on Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:56 pm

Infringers be infringing...
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Re: Savage Firearms busness raided today...?

Postby BuckKlier on Fri Apr 14, 2023 1:48 pm

So what happened?
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Postby grimbeaver on Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:32 pm

BuckKlier wrote:So what happened?

No official word, a few people with ideas over at the ar15 forum.
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Re: Savage Firearms busness raided today...?

Postby Holland&Holland on Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:14 pm

grimbeaver wrote:
BuckKlier wrote:So what happened?

No official word, a few people with ideas over at the ar15 forum.

Theories?
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Postby grimbeaver on Tue Apr 18, 2023 6:47 am

Holland&Holland wrote:
grimbeaver wrote:
BuckKlier wrote:So what happened?

No official word, a few people with ideas over at the ar15 forum.

Theories?

When the story is "I heard from a guy who heard from a guy...". Yeah I think theories is the word.
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Re: Savage Firearms busness raided today...?

Postby Jackpine Savage on Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:03 am

Recent update on arfcom. Sounds like an employee, unbeknownst to the owner, was doing some AR upgrades (full auto).

https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/-/5-2634482/?page=3#i103750800
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Re: Savage Firearms busness raided today...?

Postby Holland&Holland on Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:33 pm

Jackpine Savage wrote:Recent update on arfcom. Sounds like an employee, unbeknownst to the owner, was doing some AR upgrades (full auto).

https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/-/5-2634482/?page=3#i103750800


That will get some attention.
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Re: Savage Firearms busness raided today...?

Postby BuckKlier on Sat May 13, 2023 11:07 am

Is this the story?

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May 13, 2023 | 6:39 AM

MINNEAPOLIS – A Burnsville man is facing federal charges for illegal possession of machine gun conversion devices and firearms as a felon.

According to court documents, federal agents learned Benjamin Zwack, 29, was selling 3-D printed machine gun “switches” or “auto sears” in March while employed by a federal firearms business.

An undercover agent went to the business and purchased 11 devices from Zwack designed to convert a semi-automatic AR-type weapon to shoot automatically.

Authorities searched Zwack’s home, vehicle, and storage locker and found more weapons and ammunition.
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Postby xd ED on Sat May 13, 2023 11:19 am

BuckKlier wrote:Is this the story?

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May 13, 2023 | 6:39 AM

MINNEAPOLIS – A Burnsville man is facing federal charges for illegal possession of machine gun conversion devices and firearms as a felon.

According to court documents, federal agents learned Benjamin Zwack, 29, was selling 3-D printed machine gun “switches” or “auto sears” in March while employed by a federal firearms business.

An undercover agent went to the business and purchased 11 devices from Zwack designed to convert a semi-automatic AR-type weapon to shoot automatically.

Authorities searched Zwack’s home, vehicle, and storage locker and found more weapons and ammunition.


Yep;

The complaint references AT as the place of employment.

Criminal Complaint - USA v Benjamin Zwack
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Postby bstrawse on Sat May 13, 2023 11:47 am

Yup.
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Postby Rip Van Winkle on Sat May 13, 2023 4:37 pm

Am I understanding this right that Zwack was a felon working for this firearms business?
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Postby xd ED on Sat May 13, 2023 5:10 pm

Rip Van Winkle wrote:Am I understanding this right that Zwack was a felon working for this firearms business?


According to the complaint, (Page 2/ Item 3):
'...Zwack received a stay of imposition of this felony offense and was advised by the Court that he "not posses or use firearms, ammunition, or explosives."


Might that mean he is technically not a convicted felon due to some plea bargaining?
I'm not defending any decision to have hired this guy to work in a gun store.
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Re: Savage Firearms busness raided today...?

Postby Holland&Holland on Sat May 13, 2023 8:48 pm

Guess we shouldn’t have given in in ‘34.
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Re: Savage Firearms busness raided today...?

Postby Rip Van Winkle on Sun May 14, 2023 7:21 am

xd ED wrote:
Rip Van Winkle wrote:Am I understanding this right that Zwack was a felon working for this firearms business?


According to the complaint, (Page 2/ Item 3):
'...Zwack received a stay of imposition of this felony offense and was advised by the Court that he "not posses or use firearms, ammunition, or explosives."


Might that mean he is technically not a convicted felon due to some plea bargaining?
I'm not defending any decision to have hired this guy to work in a gun store.

Ok, that makes more sense. If I understand how a stay works, he wasn't a convicted felon and there wouldn't be a felony conviction on his record as long as he didn't violate the judges conditions, like to stay law abiding.
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Re: Savage Firearms busness raided today...?

Postby grimbeaver on Tue May 16, 2023 7:18 am

He received a "stay of imposition" which simply means he did not do jail time. Looking at the MN court records he is a convicted felon. The date of conviction was 11/23/2022 though. When did he start at Atomic? Possible he got hired before it showed up in 3rd party background check systems.

Ironically looking at his sentencing he was scheduled to serve 45 days in the Dakota County Jail on June 01, 2023. Guess he was in a rush to get there.
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