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Re: Gun Owners Caucus explainers

Postby jdege on Wed Jul 19, 2023 6:11 pm

I've not be able to find the BCA's new form online.

What do we do if it's not out before Aug 1?
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Re: Gun Owners Caucus explainers

Postby Uffdaphil on Wed Jul 19, 2023 7:42 pm

Thanks Bryan. The imminent threat clause looks like it would cover anyone for the duration of a riot.
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Re: Gun Owners Caucus explainers

Postby xd ED on Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:05 pm

Uffdaphil wrote:Thanks Bryan. The imminent threat clause looks like it would cover anyone for the duration of a riot.


That seems like a reasonable interpretation. But lest one forgets, we live in the land of mostly peaceful protests.
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Re: Gun Owners Caucus explainers

Postby bstrawse on Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:58 am

jdege wrote:I've not be able to find the BCA's new form online.

What do we do if it's not out before Aug 1?


They'll get a legal demand from us on August 1 and we'll go to court if they don't issue it immediately.

It's government - they'll publish it at 4:59PM on August 1st.

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Re: Gun Owners Caucus explainers

Postby bstrawse on Thu Jul 20, 2023 6:00 am

Uffdaphil wrote:Thanks Bryan. The imminent threat clause looks like it would cover anyone for the duration of a riot.


I'm not sure I'd read it that way. An imminent threat of death or great bodily harm has very specific meaning - and I don't think the general threat of a riot qualifies for that.
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Re: Gun Owners Caucus explainers

Postby usnret on Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:32 am

I can see a lot of lawyers getting rich off of the Red Flag laws!
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Re: Gun Owners Caucus explainers

Postby grimbeaver on Tue Jul 25, 2023 10:49 am

So am I reading this right? Per Sec. 6. [624.7175] TRANSFER OF FIREARMS. Subsection (a):
... If the respondent elects to transfer the respondent's firearms to a law enforcement agency, the agency must accept the transfer. The transfer may be permanent or temporary...

...If a respondent permanently transfers the respondent's firearms to a law enforcement agency, the agency must compensate the respondent at fair market value and may not charge the respondent any processing or other fees.

So respondent has the option of forcing the law enforcement agency to accept a permanent transfer and pay fair market value should they not want their firearms back?
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Re: Gun Owners Caucus explainers

Postby jdege on Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:23 pm

grimbeaver wrote:So respondent has the option of forcing the law enforcement agency to accept a permanent transfer and pay fair market value should they not want their firearms back?

Could I use this to rid myself of some safe queens?
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Re: Gun Owners Caucus explainers

Postby xd ED on Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:58 pm

jdege wrote:
grimbeaver wrote:So respondent has the option of forcing the law enforcement agency to accept a permanent transfer and pay fair market value should they not want their firearms back?

Could I use this to rid myself of some safe queens?


Probably an ’all-or-nothing’ deal; unlike some urban ‘buy-back’ thing.
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Re: Gun Owners Caucus explainers

Postby bstrawse on Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:54 pm

jdege wrote:
grimbeaver wrote:So respondent has the option of forcing the law enforcement agency to accept a permanent transfer and pay fair market value should they not want their firearms back?

Could I use this to rid myself of some safe queens?


If an "extreme risk protection order" is served against you - yes. But not otherwise.
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