DuraCoat Good?

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Re: DuraCoat Good?

Postby Hammer99... on Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:53 pm

Nat wrote:
Bessy wrote:I've done several guns in duracoat. It works very very well. If you don't bake it you should give it two weeks to setup before shooting. I wouldn't use the airbrush that comes with the easy kit. Get a decent airbrush like a posche.

With any finish preparation is 90% of the finish.



Is this what you used on the Saiga conversion? what kinda prep work (besides degreasing) was involved?


Saiga Conversion? Any chance you could post pics of the finished work? I have been contemplating this very project for weeks...
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Re: DuraCoat Good?

Postby Bessy on Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:19 pm

Hammer99... wrote:
Nat wrote:
Bessy wrote:I've done several guns in duracoat. It works very very well. If you don't bake it you should give it two weeks to setup before shooting. I wouldn't use the airbrush that comes with the easy kit. Get a decent airbrush like a posche.

With any finish preparation is 90% of the finish.



Is this what you used on the Saiga conversion? what kinda prep work (besides degreasing) was involved?


Saiga Conversion? Any chance you could post pics of the finished work? I have been contemplating this very project for weeks...


I haven't used duracoat on any saiga conversions, I've used it refinish a Norinco uzi, an ak-74 and to paint an 870 bright yellow.
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Re: DuraCoat Good?

Postby hammAR on Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:48 pm

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Re: DuraCoat Good?

Postby Snowgun on Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:18 pm

Hmmm, Im thinking about doing this on the 870 I am restoring to be wicked awesome. Bessy, so what do you suggest getting as a minimum?

I have a little air compressor, so I suppose I could get a airgun since I could use it for other stuff.

Do I need the reducer? Any experience with the flattener or the clear coat?
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Re: DuraCoat Good?

Postby Bessy on Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:50 pm

Snowgun wrote:Hmmm, Im thinking about doing this on the 870 I am restoring to be wicked awesome. Bessy, so what do you suggest getting as a minimum?

I have a little air compressor, so I suppose I could get a airgun since I could use it for other stuff.

Do I need the reducer? Any experience with the flattener or the clear coat?


In terms of equipment the posche airbrush is the way to go. They are about 50 bucks, I wouldn't even bother with disposable one use kind. If you want to use an airgun, you are probably going to end up spending almost as much on the small tips as you would an entry level posche, the airbrush is going to be easier to work with IMHO.
I have access to some very nice paintguns, I still prefer the airbrush, this is because I'm artistically retarded. The airbrush goes on slow, and is much more controllable and easier to work with than a paint gun for fine stuff. It might take a little longer, but the results are better with my limited skills. The airbrush should work with everything but the smallest compressor. I set mine to like 45psi or so.

I've never had to use reducer. I've never used the flattener or clear coat. I have used both the SL, and the non-SL. For actions the SL is actually nicer, you can tell the difference. You can probably get away with the smallest size (4oz) if it's just one long gun in a solid color. The next size up would give you a buffer if you put it on heavy, or wanted to do accessories, like mags or whatever. I usually order the 8oz and have about 1/2 the bottle left over.

If you are going to paint something a ridiculous color, like yellow, you need to put down a base coat of white first. In that case just order the 4oz white and whatever else you need like 4oz yellow, and that should be more than plenty.

If you need white I've got some left over, I also have yellow and black.

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Re: DuraCoat Good?

Postby Snowgun on Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:32 pm

Thanks for the info! I was a dumbass and typed "airgun" instead of "airbrush". Sorry for making you type a whole paragraph telling me not to be an idiot and get a airbrush. LOL :lol:

I think i'm gonna try the flattener, some pics on line look really cool with the super matte finish. I'm also throwing around the idea of getting tricky and putting on a pattern, but I can't think up something I would like....
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Re: DuraCoat Good?

Postby Bessy on Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:09 am

Snowgun wrote:Thanks for the info! I was a dumbass and typed "airgun" instead of "airbrush". Sorry for making you type a whole paragraph telling me not to be an idiot and get a airbrush. LOL :lol:

I think i'm gonna try the flattener, some pics on line look really cool with the super matte finish. I'm also throwing around the idea of getting tricky and putting on a pattern, but I can't think up something I would like....


I assumed by airgun you meant paintgun. Some guys do use paintguns with smaller tips, with great results. I'm pretty sure folks who do commercially would use a paintgun. I'm sure it's faster, but I think you have to be skilled and know what you are doing. I posses neither of those qualities.
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Re: DuraCoat Good?

Postby Snowgun on Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:44 pm

How long should you wait before applying secondary colors?

Can I wait for the base to dry, (1 hr?) then tape it up with stensils and hit it with another color? Do I have to prep the area where I'm applying secondary coating?
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Re: DuraCoat Good?

Postby GunSellingInstructor on Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:16 pm

Hammer99... wrote:So I have a FrankenAR. It was built with leftover parts. The only new parts are the upper and lower. Needles to say the gun is 10 shades of black. I am considering getting the ez DuraCoat kit and doin it myself. Just the upper lower and barrel. I was wondering if….

1. Has anyone done it themselves?
2. Anything you didn’t like?
3. Would you do it again?


1. My company has experience with this product. (DuraCoat)
2. What we didn't like is even just reassembling the firearm you can compromise the paint job. Doing things like attaching the upper and lower together not even banging it around.
3. Sure, we would do this again we love the wide range of colors available from DuraCoat.

DuraCoat is great for the product that it is! Remember that it is a paint and like all paint it is susceptible to crack, flake and or chip.
I have not personally heard of anyone baking on the DuraCoat product like I have read in some other posts.

My preference is to use Cerakote. The major difference is that the application process to apply this product. See the link below. The other significant difference is the chemical make up of Cerakote its like a powder coat not a paint. This chemical make up when baked on a gun(different types of metals) creates a chemical bond. This chemical bond is very strong and can withstand more abuse then even a factory bluing. Now before you can get this chemical bond you must start out with a bare unfinished metal. This is the most critical part of the application process. When you paint/coat over the factory bluing its like painting over rust. It is not permanent. This is why Cerakote is a better application for the permanent finish.

I do want to remind you that I do think that the DuraCoat product is a good application for certain people and uses. If your someone who changes their mind often then you should highly consider this option.

DuraCoat is available by request from Joshua Arms. I strongly recommend that you ask questions about the two products because they are both good and one may not be right for you.

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Re: DuraCoat Good?

Postby Snowgun on Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:02 pm

Word to the wise, Don't try to assemble ANYTHING for at least a couple days. The 24 hours they state won't really cut it for high pressure contact points. Just wait a little while and it will solidify and become very tough. I'll post how my shotgun turned out...
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Re: DuraCoat Good?

Postby MissouriDave on Sun May 01, 2011 10:39 am

I used to use duracoat and have baked a few guns with it. It needs to be baked on to be durable, and as stated before, it needs time to fully harden.

I have switched to using Krylon satin or flat colors for a few reasons.

1. I change colors from time to time, and sometimes with the seasons. I can take this off, and repaint anytime I want.
2. I don't need to bake it on and stink up the house.
3. I can paint thin coats so you can see the layer under it. Nice effects.
4. I can move scopes and dots around and strip them and repaint to match the firearm it is mounting on.

FYI Baked on Duracoat can be removed with acetone.
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Re: DuraCoat Good?

Postby Hammer99... on Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:32 pm

So almost 8 months later I finally tried DuraCoat. I did a 12 ga Winchester 1300 instead of the AR but I'm pleased so far and will probably do the AR. The first pic is a before and they all suck as I couldn't take a decent pic to save my life.



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Re: DuraCoat Good?

Postby mccandmatt on Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:25 am

I just last week ordered the Duracoat Shake n Spray and I have to say I am pleased. I did my 1911 and screwed up the first round, sprayed on a bit to much and got some dribbles. Easy fix, 800 grit sand paper on the area with the runs and put a coat or two over it and it blends in perfectly. If you totally screw the pooch just rough up the finish some and reapply, or change colors. The arosol sprayer did leave a texture on the 1911 but I actually like it, however when I did my glock frame is went with really light coats and I sprayed it from a further distance and that seemed to eliminate the texture. I reassembled my 1911 about 8 hours later with no issues. I reassembled the glock after 2 hours and even holstered in my blackhawk holster and carried it for 12 hours without a single scratch.
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DuraCoat Good?

Postby Hammer99... on Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:37 am

mccandmatt wrote:I just last week ordered the Duracoat Shake n Spray and I have to say I am pleased. I did my 1911....


Pics please!
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Re: DuraCoat Good?

Postby mccandmatt on Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:49 am

Hammer99... wrote:
mccandmatt wrote:I just last week ordered the Duracoat Shake n Spray and I have to say I am pleased. I did my 1911....


Pics please!


I forgot the pics, Ill take now and post
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G33 Was all black, but duracoated the frame
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Para 1911 was all black but stripped it to the stainless and duracoated
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