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Re: Norways killing fields

Postby R.E.T. on Mon Jul 25, 2011 12:31 pm

photogpat wrote:
nyffman wrote:<snip>Think of the children


Protect Minnesota Member and resident bleater used that exact line on her post to describe Norway's national tragedy.


He was thinking of the children, using them to get maximum media exposure.
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Re: Norways killing fields

Postby Squib Joe on Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:50 pm

Apparently he may have put poisonous nicotine in his "dum-dum" ammo? :shock:
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Re: Norways killing fields

Postby PhilaBOR on Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:19 pm

Breivik has told police that he modified dum-dum bullets to ensure they caused as much devastation as possible and claimed that he had drawn up more plans to bring terror to Oslo but had failed to carry them out.

He admitted that by cutting the tops off the bullets and injecting them with pure liquid nicotine ordered from China, he guaranteed that the lethal weapon would inflict maximum pain on his victims.

Dr Colin Poole, from Ringriket Hospital in Honefoss, north-west of Oslo, said: “Those on the dead brought in from the island are the worst I’ve ever seen. “They are very difficult to x-ray because the bullets just shatter everything into tiny pieces.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/8660863/Norway-shooting-stepbrother-of-Crown-Princess-among-those-killed-by-Anders-Breivik.html

The doctor's description wouldn't be inconsistent with frangible ammuntion.
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Re: Norways killing fields

Postby Snowgun on Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:06 pm

PhilaBOR wrote:
Breivik has told police that he modified dum-dum bullets to ensure they caused as much devastation as possible and claimed that he had drawn up more plans to bring terror to Oslo but had failed to carry them out.

He admitted that by cutting the tops off the bullets and injecting them with pure liquid nicotine ordered from China, he guaranteed that the lethal weapon would inflict maximum pain on his victims.



It's too bad he didn't **** up the injection of the nicotine (if this is even true) and rub some on his hands. He would have been a goner in about one minute. Loading those rounds with nicotine oil would have hosed him as well.

Unfortunately, since Nicotine burns at about 95F, it is likely that these doped bullets had no "poison" effect, unless it was well encapsulated until round deformation. The lethal dose is about 40-80 mg, depending on weight (50 to 100 kg), which is about 0.04 to 0.08 of a milliliter (or CC).

The effect of nicotine would be unpleasant, as you would be paralyzed and have respiratory distress, yet still experience pain. However, you would most likely go quicker with the nicotine if you were not shot in a vital area, so it might actually have a beneficial effect....unless you were just grazed.... :?
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Re: Norways killing fields

Postby DeanC on Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:17 am

cutting the tops off the bullets and injecting them with pure liquid nicotine

Just how the heck would that work? I need a diagram. :roll:
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Re: Norways killing fields

Postby Scott Notaeh on Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:44 pm

He said Breivik used a semiautomatic rifle that he appears to have been modified to make it into an automatic rifle.


Breivik's lawyer said Tuesday his client had expected police to detain him sooner.


http://www.startribune.com/world/126262593.html
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Re: Norways killing fields

Postby R.E.T. on Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:07 pm

Scott Notaeh wrote:
He said Breivik used a semiautomatic rifle that he appears to have been modified to make it into an automatic rifle.



http://www.startribune.com/world/126262593.html


Since he was firing about one shot per minute,and at close range, an automatic mode would be useless.
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