NYC Gun Charges Dropped. Now I Can Speak Out.

[Pinnacle]

[quote="gyrfalcon"]Why did this guy even plea down the charge? It's not against the law to transport firearms from a state like Minnesota to the New York airport and depart with them...

The guy already had a lawyer so he might as well stick it out and go after the city.[/quote]

You are so silly...

Where is the win proposition in fighting the City of NY when you are CLEARLY in violation of the law of the land? (Heck, we have seen what happens when you take on the City of Minneapolis and in comparison, Minneapolis is downright complimentary to gun ownership.... How'd that one work out? )

There is no fighting city hall on a gun charge, and if you do - you cant afford it. The laws in NY are not complimentary to your success where firearms are involved.

I have a VALID NYS Permit to Carry a Pistol and here is the kicker - it aint valid in NYC! We all know this - we understand this, and ignorance of the law is no excuse, nor does it get you out of a felony charge if you get nabbed.

There is no leeway - ask Plaxico Burris about the Gun Laws in NYC.

[goett047]

NYC is a S**T Hole, it is dirty, stinks and money pit. I spent a few weeks ever year for work awhile back. On the first trip you are amazed, by the third the reality sets in, by the fifth you beg not to have to go back. While they have some neat stuff it is embedded in such a mess it is just not worth it. A few years ago I read an article in Times that said something like half the restraunts have rats or mice. It is kinda like putting a new paint job on a Pinto, it may be shiny on the outside, but underneath it is still a Pinto.

This^

[Spartan]

I have no desire to EVER go to NYC.

Nor do I.

[boviki]

NYC is a blast. It really is fun. An experience unlike any other. It really is worth it.

Been there, done that. Moved here.

Same here:)
Do I know you?:)

[gyrfalcon]

Where is the win proposition in fighting the City of NY when you are CLEARLY in violation of the law of the land?

I thought he had just gone directly to the airport, for example someone in Connecticut might drive to New York International airport since it's closest to them.

[PhilaBOR]

There are states and cities I will avoid assiduously because they poop on my rights. That includes Hawaii, New Jersey, NY, Chicago, Massachusetts. I'll spend my money places that have more respect for citizens.

[Pinnacle]

Where is the win proposition in fighting the City of NY when you are CLEARLY in violation of the law of the land?

I thought he had just gone directly to the airport, for example someone in Connecticut might drive to New York International airport since it's closest to them.

No safe passage.

[gyrfalcon]

No safe passage.

Do you care to elaborate or are you just voicing opinion? FOPA still exists even if New York doesn't want to recognize it. If a police office or airline wants to arrest me for obeying the law they'll have to explain themselves at the end of the day...not me.

http://sheepdogacademy.blogspot.com/201 ... -fopa.html

[Pinnacle]

No safe passage.

Do you care to elaborate or are you just voicing opinion? FOPA still exists even if New York doesn't want to recognize it. If a police office or airline wants to arrest me for obeying the law they'll have to explain themselves at the end of the day...not me.

http://sheepdogacademy.blogspot.com/201 ... -fopa.html

Put your money where your mouth is -or- stop with all of the naive "but it's the law and they will have to answer for themselves" nonsense.

Your response is precisely why I booked out of here for a few months. You drag a gun through NYC on an airline, that is one issue, you have NYC as a final destination with a gun, you are done fore if apprehended. Do I mean you will get convicted? Nope not necessarily, but you are in for more trouble than you can afford. Just ask the dearly departed.

Do you have a NYS Pistol Permit? I don't think so, do I, yes..... You might want to think about that for a minute, there is a slight chance that I know what I am talking about.

I will gladly pay for your plane ticket MSP TO JFK, you pack a pistol and Check it IAW TSA regs, when you land, use your phone call wisely.....

Any takers?

[Pinnacle]

No safe passage.

Do you care to elaborate or are you just voicing opinion? FOPA still exists even if New York doesn't want to recognize it. If a police office or airline wants to arrest me for obeying the law they'll have to explain themselves at the end of the day...not me.

http://sheepdogacademy.blogspot.com/201 ... -fopa.html

Sheepdog academy? People need better hobbies or clues... Never understood the sheepdog crap. Give me an effing break.

[gyrfalcon]

Put your money where your mouth is -or- stop with all of the naive "but it's the law and they will have to answer for themselves" nonsense. ...I will gladly pay for your plane ticket MSP TO JFK, you pack a pistol and Check it IAW TSA regs, when you land, use your phone call wisely..... Any takers?

So you'll pay to get someone convicted but not to have a good test case? Anyone should be able to legally transport a pistol directly from any state where it's legal to another state where it's legal. If I was in Connecticut I should be able to bring my pistol to JFK and fly to MSP... end of story.

[Pinnacle]

Put your money where your mouth is -or- stop with all of the naive "but it's the law and they will have to answer for themselves" nonsense. ...I will gladly pay for your plane ticket MSP TO JFK, you pack a pistol and Check it IAW TSA regs, when you land, use your phone call wisely..... Any takers?

So you'll pay to get someone convicted but not to have a good test case? Anyone should be able to legally transport a pistol directly from any state where it's legal to another state where it's legal. If I was in Connecticut I should be able to bring my pistol to JFK and fly to MSP... end of story.

Your mistake is in thining that I care about making test cases.... I dont. There are plenty of idiots out there that we should learn from.

This is all a bunch of blowhard nonsense.... BUT ITS MY RIGHT AND THEY CANT DO THAT AND I WILL DO THIS THAT AND THE OTHER THING....

Dude really?

Paying to get someone convicted? No I am willing to pay to see you put your money where your mouth seems to be... You are pretty bold in slinging around your nonsense, now let's see you fly to ANYWHERE on the east coast departing out of NYC, or anywhere in NY for that matter and we will see how that works out for you.... Get caught ANYWHERE in Ny without the right paperwork and see where your butt winds up.... IN JAIL

There is a difference in what you think should be legal, and reality....

In reality, you would get pinched, locked up, and face charges... Good luck with it... Have fun PM Me some dates you would like to fly and I will arrange an itninerary, other than that, stow it.

The laws are the laws right or wrong.. How much justice can you afford?

[Heffay]

Paying to get someone convicted? No I am willing to pay to see you put your money where your mouth seems to be... You are pretty bold in slinging around your nonsense, now let's see you fly to ANYWHERE on the east coast departing out of NYC, or anywhere in NY for that matter and we will see how that works out for you.... Get caught ANYWHERE in Ny without the right paperwork and see where your butt winds up.... IN JAIL

There is a difference in what you think should be legal, and reality....

In reality, you would get pinched, locked up, and face charges... Good luck with it... Have fun PM Me some dates you would like to fly and I will arrange an itninerary, other than that, stow it.

When you set up a case to challenge something properly, you don't get locked up.

[Pinnacle]

Paying to get someone convicted? No I am willing to pay to see you put your money where your mouth seems to be... You are pretty bold in slinging around your nonsense, now let's see you fly to ANYWHERE on the east coast departing out of NYC, or anywhere in NY for that matter and we will see how that works out for you.... Get caught ANYWHERE in Ny without the right paperwork and see where your butt winds up.... IN JAIL

There is a difference in what you think should be legal, and reality....

In reality, you would get pinched, locked up, and face charges... Good luck with it... Have fun PM Me some dates you would like to fly and I will arrange an itninerary, other than that, stow it.

When you set up a case to challenge something properly, you don't get locked up.

I leave setting up test cases to "Professional Activists" - apparently those types are smarter than all of us put together... Famous Last Words: " Don't Try this at home kids...." REALLY?

I will however contribute to the initial meeting with the NYPD... Fly into CT ot VT with a weapon (handgun) checked per TSA Regs, Drive to NYC, Check in at JFK and let the fun begin..... If you have possession of a handgun in NYS, and it is NOT safely behind the counter on a pass through or connection, you are clearly in violation of NY Law, so good luck, and let me know how it works out.

Better yet - try Syracuse Airport... What a giggle... I can't wait for someone to take me up on the offer. I will be the guy in the hat with the video camera taping your fool ass getting cuffed and stuffed.

Can you say CRIMINAL POSSESSION of a Weap[on? I knew that you could. You dont like the law, dont travel there. Wanna change it? Do it the right way and not with a "Test Case" or other such nonsense.

Having lived there, carried a weapon for years, being an armed officer in NY, but then again, an internet connection and a big mouth makes you more of a Subject Matter Expert than I....

I wish you luck.

[gyrfalcon]

If you have possession of a handgun in NYS, and it is NOT safely behind the counter on a pass through or connection, you are clearly in violation of NY Law, so good luck, and let me know how it works out.

FOPA/LEOSA overrides NYS law. Apparently you have a hard time accepting this, but I suppose that's not hard to fathom since you were a mighty "armed officer" in NYS.

Can you say CRIMINAL POSSESSION of a Weap[on? I knew that you could. You dont like the law, dont travel there. Wanna change it? Do it the right way and not with a "Test Case" or other such nonsense.

Can you say FALSE ARREST and UNLAWFUL DETENTION? This is what I would do...

Pack the pistol below unloaded without ammo in the trunk of a chartered limo as I left Rhode Island:



Head west towards Minnesota and go to the JFK Airport where I would go to the curbside check-in. I would let them know I have a firearm to declare (but not yet remove it from the trunk) and see how they would like to handle it from there... If they don't allow me to check it in then I'll proceed on my way towards Minnesota in the same vehicle.