Echoes of Trayvon Martin in Wisconsin shooting

View · by **gwilley1** on Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:33 pm

Sounds pretty simple to me. Come in my house in the middle of the night uninvited or unexpected and you will pay for it. I won't take the chance for you to be a bad guy wanting to do harm to my family. So YES it is that simple.

View · by **infidel** on Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:37 pm

gwilley1 wrote:Sounds pretty simple to me. Come in my house in the middle of the night uninvited or unexpected and you will pay for it. I won't take the chance for you to be a bad guy wanting to do harm to my family. So YES it is that simple.

Unfortunately, everything you post can be used against you in a court of law.

View · by **Snowgun** on Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:48 pm

2beer wrote:Sweet Jesus. I was referring to the case at hand. You boys sure do like to pick it apart. I'm pretty sure your average Alzheimer's patient won't bust the door down or knock a window out to get into your house either. Despite my "simple" comment I think a little judgement and self control from the occupant of the house/apartment/townhouse/dwelling/residence goes along ways.

In the future I will be sure to be much more specific when posting.

Welcome to MNguntalk!

View · by **2beer** on Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:56 pm

Snowgun wrote:
2beer wrote:Sweet Jesus. I was referring to the case at hand. You boys sure do like to pick it apart. I'm pretty sure your average Alzheimer's patient won't bust the door down or knock a window out to get into your house either. Despite my "simple" comment I think a little judgement and self control from the occupant of the house/apartment/townhouse/dwelling/residence goes along ways.

In the future I will be sure to be much more specific when posting.

Welcome to MNguntalk!

Meh, I have pretty thick skin. I've been called an Internet troll many times. I just think its funny everyone thinks they have a law degree

View · by **gwilley1** on Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:57 pm

infidel wrote:
gwilley1 wrote:Sounds pretty simple to me. Come in my house in the middle of the night uninvited or unexpected and you will pay for it. I won't take the chance for you to be a bad guy wanting to do harm to my family. So YES it is that simple.

Unfortunately, everything you post can be used against you in a court of law.

I still stand by post. My doors are locked and if you bypass them then you will have to deal with your actions just as I will with mine. Lord willing it won't ever happen but if it does... "I am armed and I will defend myself "

View · by **CarryCauseICan** on Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:01 pm

gwilley1 wrote:Sounds pretty simple to me. Come in my house in the middle of the night uninvited or unexpected and you will pay for it. I won't take the chance for you to be a bad guy wanting to do harm to my family. So YES it is that simple.

+1000 Warning! There's the doorbell Stupid! Use it or Knock!

View · by **jdege** on Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:16 pm

justaguy wrote:Well, some might argue that simply coming into your home isn't a felony.

It's not. But it is a strong indicator of intent.

I won't shoot someone for breaking into my house. But the range of behaviors that I would consider to not indicate that he poses a threat to me and mine is far narrower than those of someone who's walking down the street.

View · by **goalie** on Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:23 pm

2beer wrote:Sweet Jesus. I was referring to the case at hand. You boys sure do like to pick it apart. I'm pretty sure your average Alzheimer's patient won't bust the door down or knock a window out to get into your house either. Despite my "simple" comment I think a little judgement and self control from the occupant of the house/apartment/townhouse/dwelling/residence goes along ways.

That Alzheimer's patient wasn't a hypothetical. I actually took him back to the nursing home.

Then again, people with real life experience are usually not the ones talking tough on an internet forum. That's usually reserved for people who have never shot targets that were shooting back.....

:roll:

View · by **2beer** on Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:34 pm

goalie wrote:
2beer wrote:Sweet Jesus. I was referring to the case at hand. You boys sure do like to pick it apart. I'm pretty sure your average Alzheimer's patient won't bust the door down or knock a window out to get into your house either. Despite my "simple" comment I think a little judgement and self control from the occupant of the house/apartment/townhouse/dwelling/residence goes along ways.

That Alzheimer's patient wasn't a hypothetical. I actually took him back to the nursing home.

Then again, people with real life experience are usually not the ones talking tough on an internet forum. That's usually reserved for people who have never shot targets that were shooting back.....

I wasn't discrediting your real life experiences. Also just like I don't know your whole story, you don't know mine. Your right, I'm probably not going to shoot an Alzheimer's patient. But you guys are failing to use reason as much as you think I am. My doors are locked, my windows are locked. If someone is in my house they had to use force to get there. My grandfather had Alzheimer's and I have seen numerous people with it, I honestly don't think they pose a threat. So again, if your in my home without my knowledge and against my wishes you are MOST LIKELY a threat. You can come up with all the hypothetical or real life experience stories you want they don't change my opinion. Not once did I threaten the use of force, I. Wouldn't say I am talking tough, I simply stated the best way to avoid a problem is too not go in someone's home.

View · by **CarryCauseICan** on Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:11 pm

goalie wrote:
2beer wrote:Sweet Jesus. I was referring to the case at hand. You boys sure do like to pick it apart. I'm pretty sure your average Alzheimer's patient won't bust the door down or knock a window out to get into your house either. Despite my "simple" comment I think a little judgement and self control from the occupant of the house/apartment/townhouse/dwelling/residence goes along ways.

That Alzheimer's patient wasn't a hypothetical. I actually took him back to the nursing home.

Then again, people with real life experience are usually not the ones talking tough on an internet forum. That's usually reserved for people who have never shot targets that were shooting back.....

I've had someone in my home without my consent. Thank God my wife and child were not home! Thank God he was gone by the time I came home from work early! I honestly believe something bad would have happened, and I would have been on the receiving end off it. I'm not posting this in angst or anger, just my 2 cents on why I may be "talking tough".

View · by **gwilley1** on Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:43 pm

2beer wrote:
goalie wrote:
2beer wrote:Sweet Jesus. I was referring to the case at hand. You boys sure do like to pick it apart. I'm pretty sure your average Alzheimer's patient won't bust the door down or knock a window out to get into your house either. Despite my "simple" comment I think a little judgement and self control from the occupant of the house/apartment/townhouse/dwelling/residence goes along ways.

That Alzheimer's patient wasn't a hypothetical. I actually took him back to the nursing home.

Then again, people with real life experience are usually not the ones talking tough on an internet forum. That's usually reserved for people who have never shot targets that were shooting back.....

I wasn't discrediting your real life experiences. Also just like I don't know your whole story, you don't know mine. Your right, I'm probably not going to shoot an Alzheimer's patient. But you guys are failing to use reason as much as you think I am. My doors are locked, my windows are locked. If someone is in my house they had to use force to get there. My grandfather had Alzheimer's and I have seen numerous people with it, I honestly don't think they pose a threat. So again, if your in my home without my knowledge and against my wishes you are MOST LIKELY a threat. You can come up with all the hypothetical or real life experience stories you want they don't change my opinion. Not once did I threaten the use of force, I. Wouldn't say I am talking tough, I simply stated the best way to avoid a problem is too not go in someone's home.

+1

View · by **justaguy** on Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:52 pm

Havent we been down this road before, Gents?

viewtopic.php?f=37&t=8177&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=trinitron

viewtopic.php?f=37&t=5088&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=trinitron

View · by **2beer** on Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:16 pm

justaguy wrote:Havent we been down this road before, Gents?

viewtopic.php?f=37&t=8177&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=trinitron

viewtopic.php?f=37&t=5088&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=trinitron

Stop it, this is not the place for reason or logic. The Internet is serious business, Al Gore said so.

View · by **tman** on Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:34 pm

gwilley1 wrote:Sounds pretty simple to me. Come in my house in the middle of the night uninvited or unexpected and you will pay for it. I won't take the chance for you to be a bad guy wanting to do harm to my family. So YES it is that simple.

Just so you know, someone who enters your house without consent, and does nothing else, has only committed a misdemeanor Trespass. The felony part is committing a crime while inside. Kill them, and you will definitely have some 'splainin' to do.

View · by **gwilley1** on Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:54 pm

tman wrote:
gwilley1 wrote:Sounds pretty simple to me. Come in my house in the middle of the night uninvited or unexpected and you will pay for it. I won't take the chance for you to be a bad guy wanting to do harm to my family. So YES it is that simple.

Just so you know, someone who enters your house without consent, and does nothing else, has only committed a misdemeanor Trespass. The felony part is committing a crime while inside. Kill them, and you will definitely have some 'splainin' to do.

Hopefully he runs away. Then there won't be any 'splainin' to do. I have small children and if you break into my home. You are a threat and I will deal with it accordingly. Letting you know I am armed is the first step. After that I won't let you endanger my wife or kids if you decide to proceed. I am not out to kill anyone but I won't stand by and be a victim.