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Re: Charges dropped against road rage cop Beard

Postby Ramoel on Sun May 04, 2008 10:20 am

I'm hoping they drop the Treptow charges too. Perhaps the whole grand jury thing was to show they were doing something because at first it looked like they wanted to sweep the whole thing under the table.

Am I being too optimistic?
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Re: Charges dropped against road rage cop Beard

Postby DeanC on Sun May 04, 2008 10:53 am

Widge wrote:That still has no bearing on whether or not Mr. Treptow can or cannot file civil suit.

I'm sure that will further endear him to undercover Robbindale Officers working in Coon Rapids.
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Re: Charges dropped against road rage cop Beard

Postby Pinnacle on Sun May 04, 2008 11:15 am

Ramoel wrote:I'm hoping they drop the Treptow charges too. Perhaps the whole grand jury thing was to show they were doing something because at first it looked like they wanted to sweep the whole thing under the table.

Am I being too optimistic?


Here is to being optimistic......

Here is what is going to happen IMHO

Mr. T will plead down to a lesser charge and he will be convicted.. He will not skate scott-free.

I don't see them dropping his charges. He shot someone - Right wrong or indifferent - under less than clear cut circumstances.
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Re: Charges dropped against road rage cop Beard

Postby Widge on Sun May 04, 2008 11:22 am

Of course, Mr. Treptow also faces the possibility, nay probability of being sued by Beard. I think he's up sh!t creek and his paddle is slowly shrinking. This was not a good situation from the get-go, and it hasn't got any better since then.
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Re: Charges dropped against road rage cop Beard

Postby princewally on Sun May 04, 2008 11:28 am

DeanC wrote:I'm sure that will further endear him to undercover Robbindale Officers working traffic detail in Coon Rapids.


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Re: Charges dropped against road rage cop Beard

Postby Pinnacle on Sun May 04, 2008 12:57 pm

Widge wrote:Of course, Mr. Treptow also faces the possibility, nay probability of being sued by Beard. I think he's up sh!t creek and his paddle is slowly shrinking. This was not a good situation from the get-go, and it hasn't got any better since then.


You hit the nail on the head so to speak - I think that Mr.T has in fact crossed the rubiconon this issue. Needless to say there was a lot of rowing coming from the cheap seats on this one. When it is not YOUR Arse on the line - it is easy to make a big show of things.
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Re: Charges dropped against road rage cop Beard

Postby DeanC on Sun May 04, 2008 3:30 pm

Pinnacle wrote:Mr. T will plead down to a lesser charge and he will be convicted.. He will not skate scott-free.

If he's lucky, he'll get reckless discharge of a firearm. And he might get his gun rights restored after a decade or two.
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Re: Charges dropped against road rage cop Beard

Postby Aceq2jot on Sun May 04, 2008 4:01 pm

DeanC wrote: I'm sure that will further endear him to undercover Robbindale Officers working in Coon Rapids.


Wow i cant believe after all the media attention it got and was mentioned several times, Officer beard was going home to his residence for lunch :o :o :o
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Re: Charges dropped against road rage cop Beard

Postby chunkstyle on Sun May 04, 2008 4:42 pm

No, he was in a hurry to get home to nail his wife.

According to gossip, Beard has already been offered a Fed LEO job, and the hire has been waiting for this to "clear up".

Pinnacle, I'm afraid you are right, poor Treptow is screwed, and partly because of noise from the cheap seats. I'm pretty sure if I had been in his position, I'd have done much the same thing, as would most of us here. Maybe he returned the finger that Beard gave him, maybe he didn't. But he sure doesn't deserve this.

I can say that if an enraged man in street clothes drives on the grass, then jumps out of his car next to mine where I can't drive away, waving a gun at my family, he's likely gonna get shot, and I believe rightly so. Too bad for MT he had a badge in his back pocket.

That said, Prof. Olsen is right, despite the screw job MT is getting, the cop is skating, and that's not right. It frightens me that society has put its trust in men such as this, and frightens me much more that it won't do anything to restrain them. but between the thin blue line, and the reporter wife, the fix was in from the start.
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Re: Charges dropped against road rage cop Beard

Postby princewally on Sun May 04, 2008 5:33 pm

chunkstyle wrote:Pinnacle, I'm afraid you are right, poor Treptow is screwed, and partly because of noise from the cheap seats.


Unfortunately, that is a statement against the prosecutor. An ethical, principled prosecutor would do his job to the best of his ability, and prosecute or not, based on the evidence and situation, regardless of whether or not there was commentary from the unwashed masses, and regardless of whether or not one of the involved individuals was an off-duty, out of uniform cop. If the prosecutor was ethical and principled, Joel's comments would have had zero effect, good or bad.

I'm amazed that people can be offended by an accusation of 'whitewash', but accept as given that accusations of whitewash will result in a vindictive, vengeful prosecution and NOT see that as an indicator of anything wrong. Cover-ups and vengeful prosecutions are lines from the same corrupt script.
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Re: Charges dropped against road rage cop Beard

Postby BRIT_in_the_weeds on Sun May 04, 2008 5:50 pm

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Re: Charges dropped against road rage cop Beard

Postby Aceq2jot on Sun May 04, 2008 6:42 pm

chunkstyle wrote:I can say that if an enraged man in street clothes drives on the grass, then jumps out of his car next to mine where I can drive away, waving a gun at my family, he's likely gonna get shot, and I believe rightly so. Too bad for MT he had a badge in his back pocket.


And right there you have screwed yourself out of any chance of not getting proscecuted :o :o The law does say that you have a duty to retreat /escape from the situation where possible instead of using deadly force :o

So then you have had the chance to escape and get yourself out of harms way. And believe me, if i had my wife and child in the vehicle my first objective would be to leave the area and get my wife and child out of harms way as my vehicle is not Armoured and has no protections against bullets.

But i guess the training he must have had must have been the same the Officers under him had at Wolf :o And believe me they dont have a very good reputation as it goes for armed security companies, and the last employer you want on your resume is them :o
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Re: Charges dropped against road rage cop Beard

Postby princewally on Sun May 04, 2008 6:48 pm

Aceq2jot wrote:
chunkstyle wrote:I can say that if an enraged man in street clothes drives on the grass, then jumps out of his car next to mine where I can drive away, waving a gun at my family, he's likely gonna get shot, and I believe rightly so. Too bad for MT he had a badge in his back pocket.


And right there you have screwed yourself out of any chance of not getting proscecuted :o :o The law does say that you have a duty to retreat /escape from the situation where possible instead of using deadly force :o

Retreat was attempted. Beard blocked him in when the traffic around him was stopped at a light. That's why Beard was driving on the shoulder. AND, if someone is pointing a gun at you or your family, you no longer have an option of retreating safely, which negates the duty to retreat.
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Re: Charges dropped against road rage cop Beard

Postby Widge on Sun May 04, 2008 7:12 pm

So now, the prosecutor is also corrupt, because we all knew the cop was guilty and his department was 'covering it up' right? If we say it's so, it must be so, that's obvious. Mr. Treptow was innocent all along, but, the 'fix' was in from the start...

I mean, there's no possibility at all that in fact we were wrong, because we still don't know what the actual evidence is, nor what the process was by which the prosecutor reached his decision so it must be a conspiracy to railroad Mr. Treptow. That's the only logical conclusion that fair-minded realists like us can reach.

Did anyone ever consider that Mr. Treptow was actually, no maybe, no possibly, at fault here and his present situation is a result of him making a series of bad decisions?

Apparently, the prosecutor has, as prosecutors do, every day, all over the country without any complaints, but that's not good enough for us.
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Re: Charges dropped against road rage cop Beard

Postby princewally on Sun May 04, 2008 7:15 pm

Widge wrote:So now, the prosecutor is also corrupt, because we all knew the cop was guilty and his department was 'covering it up' right? If we say it's so, it must be so, that's obvious. Mr. Treptow was innocent all along, but, the 'fix' was in from the start...

I mean, there's no possibility at all that in fact we were wrong, because we still don't know what the actual evidence is, nor what the process was by which the prosecutor reached his decision so it must be a conspiracy to railroad Mr. Treptow. That's the only logical conclusion that fair-minded realists like us can reach.

That's not what I said.
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