Illegal immigrants don’t have a right to own firearms

[Scott Notaeh]

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/federal ... -firearms/

A federal appeals court says illegal immigrants don’t have a right to own firearms under the U.S. Constitution.

My take:
The right to bear arms is not a constitutional right, it is a natural right protected from government tyranny by the Constitution. People have the right just by existing.

[Thunder71]

Illegal Immigrant

GTFO.

[Scott Notaeh]

Illegal Immigrant

GTFO.

I agree but you shouldn't get to charge them with firearms possession on the way out.

[EJSG19]

Illegal Immigrant

GTFO.

I agree but you shouldn't get to charge them with firearms possession on the way out.

Natural rights are fine and well, but if everybody else has to pay to play to live here than so do the illegals. If they are not here legally than firearms ownership is not something they get to bitch about. In fact they don't get to bitch unless... well... frankly there isn't much they do get to bitch about. They are not here legally. Want to live here? Follow the rules and there is no problem. If you don't, can't help ya.

I don't see any violation of anyones natural rights here. Illegal immigrant says to me they are not to be treated as law abiding people.

[bulletproof]

I call dibs on any confiscated property!

[LarryFlew]

An attorney for Huitron-Guizar appealed the case, saying illegal immigrants are not excluded from possessing firearms like felons and people who are mentally ill, and should have the same rights as U.S. citizens to buy a gun for hunting and protection.

MMMMMMMM Felons are criminals that have done something illegal. Illegal immigrants are criminals who have done something illegal. No correlation at all....................... At least he still calls them "illegal Immigrants".

We don't give immigrants voting rights, free medical etc and we shouldn't -- OOPS WE DO???????????

Don't remember who had the tag line but living in the US we should never have to press "1" for English.

[EJSG19]

For the record, it should be an obvious distinction, but those who are not yet citizens but are in legal pursuit of residency/citizenship are of course excluded from not having firearms rights.

[Scott Notaeh]

MMMMMMMM Felons are criminals that have done something illegal. Illegal immigrants are criminals who have done something illegal. No correlation at all....................... At least he still calls them "illegal Immigrants".

I think felons who have completed their sentence should not be prohibited.

[dleong]

"Illegal immigrant"? I thought the voguish PC term was undocumented worker.

[JJ]

By extending 2A rights, don't you open the door to extend all rights granted to citizens?

Slippery slope?

[Scott Notaeh]

By extending 2A rights, don't you open the door to extend all rights granted to citizens?

Slippery slope?

Does a German tourist here on vacation have 4th amendment rights?

Does a criminal have rights? How about 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th?

Looks to me that voting rights and ability to run for reps and senators are for "citizens" and not "people" or "persons".

the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

[Snowgun]

Does a German tourist here on vacation have 4th amendment rights?

I think this is a good analogy. A german citizen and an Illegal Immigrant are generally treated the same (I'm talking practically here, lets forget about the illegal part) here in the US. If they hurt themselves, we will provide them aid for acute, life threatening injuries. In general, they are tolerated to hang round till they get kicked out (the tourist usually complies at some point though). They both spend money, possible do some work, probably both under the table. If they commit a crime, they go through the same criminal justice process, and end up getting deported.

Neither of them are allowed to own a gun while here, unless they want to get citizenship rights. Pragmatically it makes sense. A right to defend oneself is a human right. A right to have gun is an American right.

[SparkyJeff]

By extending 2A rights, don't you open the door to extend all rights granted to citizens?

Slippery slope?

Slippery slope? No sir!
The 2A doesn't grant or extend any rights to anyone.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

It says "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
It does not say which people, it does not say which arms, etc.

[bulletproof]

Neither of them are allowed to own a gun while here, unless they want to get citizenship rights. Pragmatically it makes sense. A right to defend oneself is a human right. A right to have gun is an American right.

I think you need to do some legal research.

[SparkyJeff]

A right to have gun is an American right.

I disagree.