Illegal immigrants don’t have a right to own firearms

[Snowgun]

Neither of them are allowed to own a gun while here, unless they want to get citizenship rights. Pragmatically it makes sense. A right to defend oneself is a human right. A right to have gun is an American right.

I think you need to do some legal research.

Please inform me. I do believe the 2nd amendment is amended on the bill of "rights". As to the "arms" nomenclature, in the context of the time it was written in, they were referring to firearms.

Or are you referring to the fact that there are other countries that allow guns as well? The philippines?

[Squib Joe]

Neither of them are allowed to own a gun while here, unless they want to get citizenship rights.

They are a lot of people here buying guns that aren't citizens.

A tourist (also known as a non-immigrant alien) is allowed to buy guns if they can prove they have been here at least 90 days and have a state-issued hunting license, passport, and INS-issued admission number or visa. In Minnesota, the firearm can only be purchased for the purpose of taking game, although they type of firearm is not restricted.

A resident alien can also do the same with just a state-issued ID or passport, green card, and proof of 90 days residency.

[Snowgun]

Neither of them are allowed to own a gun while here, unless they want to get citizenship rights.

They are a lot of people here buying guns that aren't citizens.

A tourist (also known as a non-immigrant alien) is allowed to buy guns if they can prove they have been here at least 90 days and have a state-issued hunting license, passport, and INS-issued admission number or visa. In Minnesota, the firearm can only be purchased for the purpose of taking game, although they type of firearm is not restricted.

A resident alien can also do the same with just a state-issued ID or passport, green card, and proof of 90 days residency.

Very interesting, I figured they could bring guns with them to hunt, but never knew they could purchase them here.

What do they do with the guns when they have to leave back to their non gun friendly country? Does bills have a tourist gun lease program?

[Squib Joe]

Very interesting, I figured they could bring guns with them to hunt, but never knew they could purchase them here.

It would have to be a long hunting trip

I've rarely seen this done but I assume they could also just sell the gun to a Minnesota resident before going back to their home country. I know I've personally sold guns to guys from Ireland and Australia (students), and they were doing it mainly because just owning a gun is a freedom they won't have once they go back and they want to experience it for once in their life. Glad to oblige.

[Holland&Holland]

Neither of them are allowed to own a gun while here, unless they want to get citizenship rights.

They are a lot of people here buying guns that aren't citizens.

A tourist (also known as a non-immigrant alien) is allowed to buy guns if they can prove they have been here at least 90 days and have a state-issued hunting license, passport, and INS-issued admission number or visa. In Minnesota, the firearm can only be purchased for the purpose of taking game, although they type of firearm is not restricted.

A resident alien can also do the same with just a state-issued ID or passport, green card, and proof of 90 days residency.

Very interesting, I figured they could bring guns with them to hunt, but never knew they could purchase them here.

What do they do with the guns when they have to leave back to their non gun friendly country? Does bills have a tourist gun lease program?

You don't watch the main stream news do you? The mexican drug cartels have been buying muzzle loaders and converting them to full auto anti-tank weapons for years. It is all completely legal and sanctioned by the ATF...... or so I heard.

[Scott Notaeh]

They are a lot of people here buying guns that aren't citizens.

A tourist (also known as a non-immigrant alien) is allowed to buy guns if they can prove they have been here at least 90 days and have a state-issued hunting license, passport, and INS-issued admission number or visa. In Minnesota, the firearm can only be purchased for the purpose of taking game, although they type of firearm is not restricted.

A resident alien can also do the same with just a state-issued ID or passport, green card, and proof of 90 days residency.

I think most of these qualifications are for buying from an FFL. I don't think they apply to possession. If you are a tourist and your friend or relative lets you use their firearm, no issues.

[Squib Joe]

I think most of these qualifications are for buying from an FFL. I don't think they apply to possession. If you are a tourist and your friend or relative lets you use their firearm, no issues.

Tourists cannot transfer or buy a gun from a nonlisencee. This is addressed in the 1968 GCA - a U.S. citizen cannot transfer a gun to ANY foreign citizen

You could certainly go to the range with your friend and shoot his gun, however.

Full text here if you want to wade through it

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/922

[Scott Notaeh]

Tourists cannot transfer or buy a gun from a nonlisencee. This is addressed in the 1968 GCA - a U.S. citizen cannot transfer a gun to ANY foreign citizen

You could certainly go to the range with your friend and shoot his gun, however.

Full text here if you want to wade through it

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/922

Interesting. Thanks Squib Joe!

[jshuberg]

I used to be under the impression that the protections in the Bill of rights against government oppression applied to all US citizens wherever they may be, and also to any person while on US soil.

Then they assassinated an American citizen overseas who had never been convicted of a crime.
Then they started qualifying which people in the US don't deserve fundamental human rights.

How long do you think it will be before the rest of us find our rights in jeopardy in some way?

[SparkyJeff]

How long do you think it will be before the rest of us find our rights in jeopardy in some way?

Over a hundred years... ago.

[Heffay]

Oh, don't forget they are trying to pass a bill that lets them say you aren't a citizen if they think you are opposed to them.

[RJWesleyIII]

Illegal Immigrant

GTFO.

Exactly!

[Heffay]

Illegal Immigrant

GTFO.

Exactly!

I know, right! People who break the laws should have absolutely NO rights whatsoever!

[Lumpy]

Judge denies 2nd Amendment claim for man illegally in US charged with having 170 guns

So apparently at least one judge in one jurisdiction feels that the 2nd doesn't obligate the government to recognize gun ownership as a natural right that all human beings deserve to enjoy.

[Holland&Holland]

Judge denies 2nd Amendment claim for man illegally in US charged with having 170 guns

So apparently at least one judge in one jurisdiction feels that the 2nd doesn't obligate the government to recognize gun ownership as a natural right that all human beings deserve to enjoy.

Wrong holiday for resurrections.