14 dead, 50 wounded at Colorado Theater during Dark Knight

[chudrockz]

As an atheist, I don't believe in heaven or hell, but events like this almost make me wish I did, whoever is capable of doing something like this deserves an especially hot eternal existence.

[Thunder71]

As an atheist, I don't believe in heaven or hell, but events like this almost make me wish I did, whoever is capable of doing something like this deserves an especially hot eternal existence.

Agreed.

[Stradawhovious]

What a horrible incident.

It's too bad that people will blame the guns, and not the psychopath behind the trigger. Sounds like this incident was no surprise to the shooter's mother, I wonder if maybe this could have been avoided through her intervention?

From the article here... http://gma.yahoo.com/mass-shooting-colo ... ories.html

A San Diego woman identifying herself as James Holmes's mother spoke briefly with ABC News this morning.

She had awoken unaware of the news of the shooting and had not been contacted by authorities. She immediately expressed concern that her son may have been involved.

"You have the right person," she said.

"I need to call the police," she added. "I need to fly out to Colorado."

[Ramoel]

I can't help thinking "What a coincidence" that this happens just as the UN small arms treaty is being discussed.

Call me a tinfoil hat but it is really strange...

And the President comes out with a statement about how the Justice Dept. will get to the bottom of this even before the Colorado Governor has a chance to speak. I thought it was a local police matter first.

[rugersol]

I can't help thinking "What a coincidence" that this happens just as the UN small arms treaty is being discussed.

Call me a tinfoil hat but it is really strange...

And the President comes out with a statement about how the Justice Dept. will get to the bottom of this even before the Colorado Governor has a chance to speak. I thought it was a local police matter first.

Timing was purdy impeccable ... wasn't it?!

[yukonjasper]

Careful guys - I take some heat for being an alarmist, you are dangerously close to being accused of the same thing.

Although I doubt there is a massive conspiracy at work that hired this guy to commit this act today, that doesn't say that it won't be used as a reason to push it through "before there is more blood shed". I can hear it now "it is imperative we act now to preserve peace and order within our boarders." It really is for our own good that the government intercedes on our behalf.

Where are the critics, lets hear how we are all being hysterical and shouldn't overreact to the gun control afterall its for public safety - think of the children that will be protected - the innocents that will be saved if we can just get a hold of this problem - if we can save just one life, it will all be worth it - what if it were your child, wouldn't you want him/her to be safe - all the same rhetoric. Go to sleep........ go to sleep...........let the government and all the smart people fix this problem for you so you can slip into the wooley soft slumber of a life not disturbed by choices and freedom.

[The Lance]

I think it should be mentioned that even if there was a CWP holder in that particular theater, Holmes kicked in an emergency exit door .I am assuming the door from outside led right into the theater. His first move was the throw tear gas, so no one could see, then he started shooting. By the time anyone saw all of his guns and tear gas, it was probably too late..

[MadTalon]

Careful guys - I take some heat for being an alarmist, you are dangerously close to being accused of the same thing.

Although I doubt there is a massive conspiracy at work that hired this guy to commit this act today, that doesn't say that it won't be used as a reason to push it through "before there is more blood shed". I can hear it now "it is imperative we act now to preserve peace and order within our boarders." It really is for our own good that the government intercedes on our behalf.

Where are the critics, lets hear how we are all being hysterical and shouldn't overreact to the gun control afterall its for public safety - think of the children that will be protected - the innocents that will be saved if we can just get a hold of this problem - if we can save just one life, it will all be worth it - what if it were your child, wouldn't you want him/her to be safe - all the same rhetoric. Go to sleep........ go to sleep...........let the government and all the smart people fix this problem for you so you can slip into the wooley soft slumber of a life not disturbed by choices and freedom.

I want to make a bunch of T-shirts that say "Just Let it Happen" with the word freedoms on the back with a slash through it and give it to everyone in my office that believes that I need to keep my Pistol in my car.

[rugersol]

... the comment was made, some patrons believed the smoke (and maybe even the first few shots) were part of the "event"!

I probly woulda, too!

Conversely, let's say there's some big such event, and a permit-holder is present, and a permit-holder draws ... or even shoots ... at one of the "performers"?!

At some point at the conclusion of the MN SASS State Championship, the festivities are livened up by someone firing a double-bbl 12ga ... inside the ballroom ... blanks, presumably! ... most've come to expect it, now! ... I understand, the first time it was done, a few folks had to scramble fer their nitro!

It's not like there's never a shooting where a permit-holder don't make proper use of his gun! ... this is just one of them times where the chips didn't fall right! ... it happens!

[Hmac]

Although I doubt there is a massive conspiracy at work that hired this guy to commit this act today, that doesn't say that it won't be used as a reason to push it through "before there is more blood shed". I can hear it now "it is imperative we act now to preserve peace and order within our boarders." It really is for our own good that the government intercedes on our behalf.

It will be interesting to see how shrill the rhetoric gets (and stays) after this incident. I was impressed with the public's short attention span after the Gabrielle Giffords' shooting incident.

[Hmac]

MAJOR fodder for anti-gun initiatives.

Don't forget the UN thing.

Yeah...about that, though...(I don't have my tinfoil hat within reach ATM)...what written provisions of the UN Arms Trade Treaty are you referring to?

[PHATSPEED7x]

Very sad. But what the mass media needs to learn (and they never will) is that...

GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE! PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE!

[Heffay]

Very sad. But what the mass media needs to learn (and they never will) is that...

GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE! PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE!

They are far better than they used to be. While you have the inevitable shrills from the same group of people demanding guns be banned, it is no longer anathema to suggest otherwise in the media. The Gifford case was a good example of a few people demanding something be done, but the majority of people realizing that banning guns isn't the answer. So nothing (harmful) was done as a result.

[rugersol]

what written provisions of the UN Arms Trade Treaty are you referring to?

Not an entirely unreasonable request ... but first, if you would, what written provisions of the UN Arms Trade Treaty would benefit the U.S. and/or its citizens and/or its interests, abroad?!

[Heffay]

what written provisions of the UN Arms Trade Treaty are you referring to?

Not an entirely unreasonable request ... but first, if you would, what written provisions of the UN Arms Trade Treaty would benefit the U.S. and/or its citizens and/or its interests, abroad?!

To be fair, he asked you first.