Do people not know how to store firearms?

[20mm]

Wow, this just plain sucks I have 3 small children the primary reason I even own firearms is to protect them. I am looking at my 21 month old as I type this reply and I am damn near crying. If you have never fallen in love then married her/him had awesome passionate sex and been blown away with the overwhelming joyful news that you have co-created another human being and then at the hospital after waiting to meet your baby for 9 months you get to see the beauty your maker has intended you to see you hold the new life in your arms being ever so careful you don't squeeze to tightly. You bring your baby home and don't sleep because they need you all the time you feed them you care for them you proudly tell your friends and family all about their personality and you've fallen in love all over again. If you haven't experienced this how can you even begin to pretend you understand what this family is going through? I don't ever I mean ever want to have to bury any of my children! My thoughts and prayers will include this family this is a real tragedy.

While you romanticize the concept of raising children many don't. There are people in this world that will strap their children into a car seats and back the car into a river.

They we're grossly negligent and irresponsible which resulted in the death of one of their children. If you don't want to bury your children don't leave them in a room with a loaded gun. Be a responsible parent and watch out for your progeny.

While I won't pretend to know what the family is going through, why don't you try and do some pretending.

Why don't you try and pretend what sort of parent would buy and load a gun, then leave it in a room with their unsupervised children?

[Heffay]

Operator keep on operating!

[20mm]

too bad you weren't there bro - guess this could have all been avoided by your superior knowledge and disipline.

i'll sleep better knowing there are people like you out there who care enough to care

Care your pretty little heart out, it won't bring back the dead kid.

I care enough to volunteer my time to teach people how to handle and store firearms properly.

[20mm]

Operator keep on operating!

Troller keep on trolling.

[TH3180]

I care enough to volunteer my time to teach people how to handle and store firearms properly.

When and where? Also will you be giving out parenting advice before or after class? From the looks of it, I have a lot to learn from someone with no kids.

[20mm]

I care enough to volunteer my time to teach people how to handle and store firearms properly.

When and where? Also will you be giving out parenting advice before or after class? From the looks of it, I have a lot to learn from someone with no kids.

When and where? Right here... Don't leave a loaded firearms unsecured around unsupervised children. Yes you apparently do have a lot to learn.

I'm beginning to understand why this place has been referred to as the daycare.

[TH3180]

I care enough to volunteer my time to teach people how to handle and store firearms properly.

When and where? Also will you be giving out parenting advice before or after class? From the looks of it, I have a lot to learn from someone with no kids.

When and where? Right here... Don't leave a loaded firearms unsecured around unsupervised children. Yes you apparently do have a lot to learn.

I'm beginning to understand why this place has been referred to as the daycare.

Seriously, being a jackass behind a keyboard is not volunteering. Oh and teach away, a childless person always knows more about raising kids then someone that has kids.

[AFTERMATH]

I tell you what, I'm not so old as to not remember being a kid.
If I had wanted to gain access to my fathers guns - There was no way he could have hid them or locked them up good enough to keep them away from me. I was quite the sly little child.

[20mm]

Seriously, being a jackass behind a keyboard is not volunteering. Oh and teach away, a childless person always knows more about raising kids then someone that has kids.

Seriously, you're not a good parent just because you have kids. Oh, and if your can't differentiate between being a responsible firearms owner and raising kids you should just shut up.

I tell you what, I'm not so old as to not remember being a kid.
If I had wanted to gain access to my fathers guns - There was no way he could have hid them or locked them up good enough to keep them away from me. I was quite the sly little child.

So you knew how to pick locks and load guns when you were 4 years old? What age did you learn to use a cutting torch and defeat locks? I'm talking about small children here, not young adults.

[Heffay]

This is making us look good.

[TH3180]

Seriously, being a jackass behind a keyboard is not volunteering. Oh and teach away, a childless person always knows more about raising kids then someone that has kids.

Seriously, you're not a good parent just because you have kids. Oh, and if your can't differentiate between being a responsible firearms owner and raising kids you should just shut up.

Guess what you **** piece of ****. You don't know me and you don't know what kind of parent I am. You also don't know what kind of firearms owner I am. There are a lot of similarities between raising kids and firearms. Then again I'm a bad parent that doesn't know as much as you so I'll shut up.

[AFTERMATH]

Seriously, being a jackass behind a keyboard is not volunteering. Oh and teach away, a childless person always knows more about raising kids then someone that has kids.

Seriously, you're not a good parent just because you have kids. Oh, and if your can't differentiate between being a responsible firearms owner and raising kids you should just shut up.

I tell you what, I'm not so old as to not remember being a kid.
If I had wanted to gain access to my fathers guns - There was no way he could have hid them or locked them up good enough to keep them away from me. I was quite the sly little child.

So you knew how to pick locks and load guns when you were 4 years old? What age did you learn to use a cutting torch and defeat locks? I'm talking about small children here, not young adults.

Perhaps I wouldn't have had the strength to crack a safe at that age. But sometime before the age of 7, I managed to get into a family friends car, you know the kind with the outside electronic combination locks, much like on many gun safes these days. I also remember cracking at least one combination padlock. Child-resistant lighters and those child proof cabinet locks were no match for me.
I had cap-guns and whatnot; I'm pretty sure I could have picked the cheapo lock on my parents bedroom and gone in there picked up one of his unsecured guns and managed to figure out how to load it. But that was off-limits. And believe me, I pushed the limits every chance I got - but I knew better than to cross the line.
Besides, I was too busy making weapons of my own; like knives, spears, bows and arrows - And mixing up household cleaners to engage in chemical warfare against spiders.
And this is but a glimpse of a handful of small memories remaining from my early childhood. I'm certain there were many more adventures where those came from.

[20mm]

Guess what you **** piece of ****. You don't know me and you don't know what kind of parent I am. You also don't know what kind of firearms owner I am. There are a lot of similarities between raising kids and firearms. Then again I'm a bad parent that doesn't know as much as you so I'll shut up.

Guess what? I never claimed to know what sort of parent or firearms owner you were. You were the one who sarcastically asked to be taught how to handle and store your firearms safely. I also never said you were a bad parent, although you seem to have trouble controlling your temper and acting rationally. That could be a sign of a bad parent.

Perhaps I wouldn't have had the strength to crack a safe at that age. But sometime before the age of 7, I managed to get into a family friends car, you know the kind with the outside electronic combination locks, much like on many gun safes these days. I also remember cracking at least one combination padlock. Child-resistant lighters and those child proof cabinet locks were no match for me.
I had cap-guns and whatnot; I'm pretty sure I could have picked the cheapo lock on my parents bedroom and gone in there picked up one of his unsecured guns and managed to figure out how to load it. But that was off-limits. And believe me, I pushed the limits every chance I got - but I knew better than to cross the line.
Besides, I was too busy making weapons of my own; like knives, spears, bows and arrows - And mixing up household cleaners to engage in chemical warfare against spiders.
And this is but a glimpse of a handful of small memories remaining from my early childhood. I'm certain there were many more adventures where those came from.

So your parents set boundaries with you. They didn't allow you in the bedroom, kept it locked, and didn't have the loaded firearms sitting around for you to play with if you did disobeyed them and did manage to get in?

I'm not saying being a parent is easy, and there aren't tough choices you need to make (especially when it comes to firearms ownership). What if you have a teenager with behavioral problems who's showing signs of depression?

The title of this thread is "Do people not know how to store firearms?" and from most of the responses here it appears they don't. Lets condone what these parents did and write it off as a tragedy and accident that wasn't completely avoidable.

[bstrawse]

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[Shawski]

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