Feinstein's Take on a "New" AWB

[JK-linux]

Summary, trying to plug the "loopholes" from 1994 and she want's your AR-15 (and other scary stuff) to be NFA registered.

http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/ ... lt-weapons

Sorry if this is a repost...

Summary:

Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of:
120 specifically-named firearms
Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one military characteristic
Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds

Strengthens the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and various state bans by:
Moving from a 2-characteristic test to a 1-characteristic test
Eliminating the easy-to-remove bayonet mounts and flash suppressors from the characteristics test
Banning firearms with “thumbhole stocks” and “bullet buttons” to address attempts to “work around” prior bans

Bans large-capacity ammunition feeding devices capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.

Protects legitimate hunters and the rights of existing gun owners by:
Grandfathering weapons legally possessed on the date of enactment
Exempting over 900 specifically-named weapons used for hunting or sporting purposes and
Exempting antique, manually-operated, and permanently disabled weapons

Requires that grandfathered weapons be registered under the National Firearms Act, to include:
Background check of owner and any transferee;
Type and serial number of the firearm;
Positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint;
Certification from local law enforcement of identity and that possession would not violate State or local law; and
Dedicated funding for ATF to implement registration

[sigsauersauce]

She forgot to add the requsite blood/spinal fluid/semen sample requirement!

In all seriousness this is just stupid. At least now that there's real proposed legislation out there I have something specific to write my congressional and senate reps about.

[jshuberg]

Fantastic! There's absolutely no way that will pass!!

[TTS]

Summary, trying to plug the "loopholes" from 1994 and she want's your AR-15 (and other scary stuff) to be NFA registered.

http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/ ... lt-weapons

Sorry if this is a repost...

Summary:

Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of:
120 specifically-named firearms
Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one military characteristic
Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds

Strengthens the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and various state bans by:
Moving from a 2-characteristic test to a 1-characteristic test
Eliminating the easy-to-remove bayonet mounts and flash suppressors from the characteristics test
Banning firearms with “thumbhole stocks” and “bullet buttons” to address attempts to “work around” prior bans

Bans large-capacity ammunition feeding devices capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.

Protects legitimate hunters and the rights of existing gun owners by:
Grandfathering weapons legally possessed on the date of enactment
Exempting over 900 specifically-named weapons used for hunting or sporting purposes and
Exempting antique, manually-operated, and permanently disabled weapons

Requires that grandfathered weapons be registered under the National Firearms Act, to include:
Background check of owner and any transferee;
Type and serial number of the firearm;
Positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint;
Certification from local law enforcement of identity and that possession would not violate State or local law; and
Dedicated funding for ATF to implement registration

Complete and utter BS, if the R's let this pass I will vow to vote for Libertarians for eternity.

[45Badger]

Sent this to my senators-

Senator XXX,

I am writing to express my specific and unwavering opposition to all of the themes and ideas in Senator Feinstein's proposed legislation noted here-

http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/ ... lt-weapons

In addition to my opposition to the restrictions she is proposing, I find her use of terms such as "legitimate hunter" to be condescending and arrogant. They are factually incorrect and speak to her lack of knowledge on the subject.

I am a 50 year old father of two. I am a gun owner, hunter, and competitive shooter. I am an NRA certified instructor and hold a MN permit to carry. My family owns and shoots (for hunting, fun, competition, and self-defense) many guns, including handguns and AR15s with standard capacity magazines. We are responsible gun owners and users and our guns are a threat to no one.

I request that you not support "feel good" legislation that will not make an impact on crime. I have done nothing to warrant restrictions on the type of gun or magazine I own and use for lawful purposes. Please don't support punishing me and the millions of responsible gun owners in Minnesota and the United States for the acts of a few crazed individuals.

Like most Americans, I was heartbroken by the murders in Connecticut. I would happily get rid of all of my guns if it would bring one of those children back. But it won't. And it won't prevent future crazy, angry, criminal or damaged people from doing evil things. The only people who pay attention to gun laws are the "good guys" like me and most gun owners. We're not out robbing stores and banks, dealing drugs, stealing cars, or murdering people. We're working, providing for our families, putting our kids through school and being good citizens. Committing a misdemeanor or felony is not in our playbook. On the other hand, those who are willing to rob, murder or rape are not really afraid of a minor arrest for "gun crime".

Thanks for your time in thinking through this very emotional issue. Please let the facts and a commitment to individual freedom guide your heart and votes on this subject. There's more than enough pontificating in Washington, so please be a voice for reason and not another Senator chasing a soundbite about "doing something".

Respectfully,

me

[arizona98tj]

Nicely worded.....very well done.

[bensdad]

Badger,
Can I steal a couple chunks of that?

[bstrawse]

Wow, this is some pretty onerous legislation. Feels like a major overreach to me on their part. I can't see this passing.

That said, we are going to have to fight this hard to make sure it doesn't pass.
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[Geezer43]

The anti-gunners were yelling about the cost of having thousands of properly trained armed security guards for school protection, yet they seem to embrace funding the ATF cost of implementing this Bill, plus the extra costs of background checks, identification/fingerprint processing, and local LE identification certification.
Just another example of their lack of common sense.
I would like to suggest to Feinstein that she and Bloomberg should foot the bill for something like this.

[JustPlainT]

Fantastic! There's absolutely no way that will pass!!

Never say never.

I'm afraid this could pass. Especially if the GOP is given some sort of bone in trade for their support.

[xd ED]

This is their starting point in the negotiation.
If they ....come to the table....negotiate in good faith.....reach a compromise for the safety of the children......and drop 1/3 of the BS, it still is worthless and troubling legislation

[Geezer43]

This is their starting point in the negotiation.
If they ....come to the table....negotiate in good faith.....reach a compromise for the safety of the children......and drop 1/3 of the BS, it still is worthless and troubling legislation

Exactly.

[usnret]

The anti-gunners were yelling about the cost of having thousands of properly trained armed security guards for school protection, yet they seem to embrace funding the ATF cost of implementing this Bill, plus the extra costs of background checks, identification/fingerprint processing, and local LE identification certification.
Just another example of their lack of common sense.
I would like to suggest to Feinstein that she and Bloomberg should foot the bill for something like this.

I'm pretty sure that they would have gun owners pay for everything.

[jshuberg]

If they try to push this through, I wouldn't be surprised if they also increased the transfer tax. $200 hasn't changed since 1934, when I believe it amounted to several months salary for the average person. I could see them proposing something like a $5000 registration fee. If you can't pay it, you have to turn in the rifle as its no longer transferable.

I really hope that they're thinking of these kinds of things. It would be so out of line that very few members of congress would be willing to vote for it. And if they did, they'd be living the rest of their lives in a bus shelter.

I stand by my belief that Heller makes any kind of outright ban on weapons in common use by law abiding citizens unconstitutional. Honestly, I don't know what Feinstein and friends are thinking. They have to know that the odds of any major gun control legislation passing are *extremely* low.

[tazdevil]

If they try to push this through, I wouldn't be surprised if they also increased the transfer tax. $200 hasn't changed since 1934, when I believe it amounted to several months salary for the average person. I could see them proposing something like a $5000 registration fee. If you can't pay it, you have to turn in the rifle as its no longer transferable.

I really hope that they're thinking of these kinds of things. It would be so out of line that very few members of congress would be willing to vote for it. And if they did, they'd be living the rest of their lives in a bus shelter.

I stand by my belief that Heller makes any kind of outright ban on weapons in common use by law abiding citizens unconstitutional. Honestly, I don't know what Feinstein and friends are thinking. They have to know that the odds of any major gun control legislation passing are *extremely* low.

Wish I could believe that last part. Problem is, with emotions high, rational thinking low, this is the exact recipe anti's would hope for to get strong bills passed that befoer would've been extremely difficult if not impossible. January is going to be interesting, hopefully not too ugly.