MPR and Adam Lanza

[Chunkychuck]

Of course she is partly responsible, as is the kid's estranged dad. Even if they weren't her guns she would be partly responsible. She was the kid's keeper. She knew better than anyone that he had issues. All these mass shooters' families have to accept some of the responsibility for their family member's actions, as nobody is in a better position to prevent this stuff than they are. You can't just let a family member sit and sulk and become increasingly detached from humanity. For God's sake, whatever happened to taking care of each other? Especially family.

It's easy to criticize the dead. And with HIPPA, unless someone speaks without regard for the law, we will never know if she was having him seek professional help.

[20mm]

Then I would say your original post "blaming her" falls in the same category as the anti's who argue for gun control wiithout facts.

I'll wait for the official report and post again when I'm proven right. I'd like to be proven wrong but it rarely happens.

If you're bringing in a quarter of a million each year you should have something like this hooked up to your mansions security system: http://www.amsecusa.com/amvaultx6/

No excuse leaving a firearm for your deranged kid to access especially when you're as wealthy as the killers dead mom.

[LePetomane]

If you're bringing in a quarter of a million each year you should have something like this hooked up to your mansions security system: http://www.amsecusa.com/amvaultx6/

No excuse leaving a firearm for your deranged kid to access especially when you're as wealthy as the killers dead mom.

What gives you the right to determine how this woman spends her money?

[20mm]

What gives you the right to determine how this woman spends her money? You income envious types are all the same.

I personally didn't care how the hell she spent her money until her effed up son used her firearms to slaughterer a bunch of children and adults.

Generally the excuse is that gun owners can't afford a safe to protect their firearms. In this case the woman had plenty of resources and money.

[Chunkychuck]

If you're bringing in a quarter of a million each year you should have something like this hooked up to your mansions security system: http://www.amsecusa.com/amvaultx6/

No excuse leaving a firearm for your deranged kid to access especially when you're as wealthy as the killers dead mom.

What gives you the right to determine how this woman spends her money? You income envious types are all the same.

Some quotation marks were left out by LePetomane because I didn't make the remark about her taking in a quarter of a million a year. 20mm did.

[MXGreg]

The way this story has been reported and distorted, we most likely will never know the truth. Were the guns stored in a safe or a locked metal cabinet? One is very easy to break into. I've heard that mom was trying to have him committed and that is what set him off. Could he have killed mom (anyone know if she was shot or killed some other way?) and taken the key, or a big screwdriver, and opened the cabinet? Or did he know the combination of the safe? Or were the guns just laying around?

[connsolo]

Of course she is partly responsible, as is the kid's estranged dad. Even if they weren't her guns she would be partly responsible. She was the kid's keeper. She knew better than anyone that he had issues. All these mass shooters' families have to accept some of the responsibility for their family member's actions, as nobody is in a better position to prevent this stuff than they are. You can't just let a family member sit and sulk and become increasingly detached from humanity. For God's sake, whatever happened to taking care of each other? Especially family.

It's easy to criticize the dead. And with HIPPA, unless someone speaks without regard for the law, we will never know if she was having him seek professional help.

Im not just criticizing the dead, Im criticizing the living as well. Eric Harris's dad called the cops when columbine was going down and said he suspected his son was involved. The accent signage shooter's parents admitted he had become increasingly detached. The biggest mistake of all, a criminal one, was the shrink who didnt report the aurora shooter. Most importantly though, a family member doesn't have to be officially diagnosed with anything for you to see if they're ok. I'm sure if he hand't killed her, Lanza's mother would have admitted to seeing plenty of signs.

[Chunkychuck]

Of course she is partly responsible, as is the kid's estranged dad. Even if they weren't her guns she would be partly responsible. She was the kid's keeper. She knew better than anyone that he had issues. All these mass shooters' families have to accept some of the responsibility for their family member's actions, as nobody is in a better position to prevent this stuff than they are. You can't just let a family member sit and sulk and become increasingly detached from humanity. For God's sake, whatever happened to taking care of each other? Especially family.

It's easy to criticize the dead. And with HIPPA, unless someone speaks without regard for the law, we will never know if she was having him seek professional help.

Im not just criticizing the dead, Im criticizing the living as well. Eric Harris's dad called the cops when columbine was going down and said he suspected his son was involved. The accent signage shooter's parents admitted he had become increasingly detached. The biggest mistake of all, a criminal one, was the shrink who didnt report the aurora shooter. Most importantly though, a family member doesn't have to be officially diagnosed with anything for you to see if they're ok. I'm sure if he hand't killed her, Lanza's mother would have admitted to seeing plenty of signs.

Would you please define what you mean by what I have highlighted?

[LePetomane]

I personally didn't care how the hell she spent her money until her effed up son used her firearms to slaughterer a bunch of children and adults.

Why do you care how she spent her money now?

[connsolo]

Im not just criticizing the dead, Im criticizing the living as well. Eric Harris's dad called the cops when columbine was going down and said he suspected his son was involved. The accent signage shooter's parents admitted he had become increasingly detached. The biggest mistake of all, a criminal one, was the shrink who didnt report the aurora shooter. Most importantly though, a family member doesn't have to be officially diagnosed with anything for you to see if they're ok. I'm sure if he hand't killed her, Lanza's mother would have admitted to seeing plenty of signs.[/quote]

Would you please define what you mean by what I have highlighted?[/quote]

It's easy to tell if one of your family members is off. You don't need an official diagnosis from a mental health professional to say, "Hey, you doing ok? You seem like something's bothering you" or to say to yourself, "Hmm, Bobby is acting a little strange. He's despondent and antisocial, maybe I should hide the kitchen knives/guns/explosives."

[LePetomane]

I wish people would quit analyzing this and place the blame on the fact that Adam Lanza was a deranged nut. Stop blaming the "system" for failing him. Stop blaming Bush. Stop blaming the NRA and Wayne LaPierre. He was a deranged nut case.

[MXGreg]

It is becoming a very slippery slope with the laws that are being proposed and the feelings that people should "do something" if some one does not seem "normal". Let's say your girlfreind dumps you, wife leaves you, or you lose your job and you act a little depressed for awhile. Now let's say a relative, freind, or co-worker notices and makes a report. Now that it has been recorded it could become very difficult get new guns, or even keep the ones you have, even though the depression was normal for the situation and temporary. I know there are some people that really should be committed, monitored, or helped in some way, but where does the line get drawn? Just something to think about.

[20mm]

Why do you care how she spent her money now?

Because her personal lifestyle choices effected a number of people and the political climate relating to gun control.

[tman]

her personal lifestyle choices effected a number of people and the political climate relating to gun control.

No, her SON's actions did that.

Lay the blame where it belongs.

[LePetomane]

Why do you care how she spent her money now?

Because her personal lifestyle choices effected a number of people and the political climate relating to gun control.

It's still none of your business how anyone spends their money which they acquired legally. The mainstream media publishes these income figures to generate envy and anger in the minds of susceptible people. You took the bait.