British man hacked to death

View · by **NMRMN** on Sat May 25, 2013 5:39 pm

All you anti-religion genius's might want to consider the following. When societies allow the free practice of religion, it is a good thing. It is a reflection of a government's respect for the individual's inalienable rights. Even the term 'inalienable rights' is derived from the notion that our creator has endowed us with certain rights that no government can take away! As for what ideological group has killed the most? Well...

It has been estimated that in less than the past 100 years, governments under the banner of communism have caused the death of somewhere between 40,472,000 to 259,432,000 human lives.[2][3][4][5][6][7] Dr. R. J. Rummel, professor emeritus of political science at the University of Hawaii, is the scholar who first coined the term democide (death by government). Dr. R. J. Rummel's mid estimate regarding the loss of life due to communism is that communism caused the death of approximately 110,286,000 people between 1917 and 1987.

read: http://www.conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_Mass_Murder

Stalin said "You know, they are fooling us, there is no God...all this talk about God is sheer nonsense" in E. Yaroslavsky, Landmarks in the Life of Stalin, Foreign Languages Publishing House, Moscow 1940

read: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Was_Stalin_an_atheist

View · by **tman** on Sat May 25, 2013 5:47 pm

Heffay wrote:My question to you is: So what? What do you propose we do about radical Muslims? Is this a Sarah Palin "we're keeping a close eye on you people" moment, or do you have some practical solution to terrorism?

I wish I had the answer.

I figured you did.

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View · by **Heffay** on Sat May 25, 2013 5:48 pm

So Atheism killed all those people?

Just like guns kill people?

View · by **Heffay** on Sat May 25, 2013 5:49 pm

tman wrote:
Heffay wrote:My question to you is: So what? What do you propose we do about radical Muslims? Is this a Sarah Palin "we're keeping a close eye on you people" moment, or do you have some practical solution to terrorism?

I wish I had the answer.

I figured you did.

I have ideas that will help over generations. It starts with not saying Islam is evil. A bit of empathy and tolerance for your fellow religious people.

View · by **tman** on Sat May 25, 2013 6:00 pm

Heffay wrote: It starts with not saying Islam is evil. A bit of empathy and tolerance for your fellow religious people.

I've never said that.

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View · by **Heffay** on Sat May 25, 2013 6:04 pm

tman wrote:
Heffay wrote: It starts with not saying Islam is evil. A bit of empathy and tolerance for your fellow religious people.

I've never said that.

I never said you did. But this thread is full of that. Not to mention you are drawing a link between Islam and terrorism, which also isn't helpful.

That is what I'm saying isn't helpful. And wrong.

View · by **infidel** on Sat May 25, 2013 6:35 pm

Heffay wrote:
tman wrote:
Heffay wrote: It starts with not saying Islam is evil. A bit of empathy and tolerance for your fellow religious people.

I've never said that.

I never said you did. But this thread is full of that. Not to mention you are drawing a link between Islam and terrorism, which also isn't helpful.

That is what I'm saying isn't helpful. And wrong.

Help me in understanding Islamic principles that would treat women, homosexuals, apostates or infidels as equals. If you found any, I would champion them.

View · by **goalie** on Sat May 25, 2013 6:40 pm

Heffay wrote:
tman wrote:
Heffay wrote: It starts with not saying Islam is evil. A bit of empathy and tolerance for your fellow religious people.

I've never said that.

I never said you did. But this thread is full of that. Not to mention you are drawing a link between Islam and terrorism, which also isn't helpful.

That is what I'm saying isn't helpful. And wrong.

Ignoring the current link between islam and terrorism isn't helpful either.

View · by **Heffay** on Sat May 25, 2013 6:43 pm

infidel wrote:Help me in understanding Islamic principles that would treat women, homosexuals, apostates or infidels as equals. If you found any, I would champion them.

Why would you care about how a Muslim chooses to live his own life?

View · by **goalie** on Sat May 25, 2013 7:10 pm

Heffay wrote:
infidel wrote:Help me in understanding Islamic principles that would treat women, homosexuals, apostates or infidels as equals. If you found any, I would champion them.

Why would you care about how a Muslim chooses to live his own life?

He might be inquiring about one of those millions of women not given the opportunity to choose much of anything since they are treated as property under sharia-law.....

View · by **jstiegs** on Sat May 25, 2013 8:53 pm

View · by **tman** on Sun May 26, 2013 12:04 am

Heffay wrote:
you are drawing a link between Islam and terrorism, which also isn't helpful.

That is what I'm saying isn't helpful. And wrong.

Jesus Christ, Heffay, Islam IS the link between all the fricken terrorists.

View · by **infidel** on Sun May 26, 2013 1:38 am

Heffay wrote:
infidel wrote:Help me in understanding Islamic principles that would treat women, homosexuals, apostates or infidels as equals. If you found any, I would champion them.

Why would you care about how a Muslim chooses to live his own life?

I understand you could not answer the question.

View · by **Heffay** on Sun May 26, 2013 4:49 am

tman wrote:
Heffay wrote:
you are drawing a link between Islam and terrorism, which also isn't helpful.

That is what I'm saying isn't helpful. And wrong.

Jesus Christ, Heffay, Islam IS the link between all the fricken terrorists.

No no no! Radicalization is the link between all the terrorists. Because, as I had shown earlier, Christians can be murdering terrorist scumbags too! Just like Atheism isn't responsible for all the people Stalin killed!

It's like blaming guns for violence! Islam is just a religion and can easily be practiced responsibly just like Christianity.

View · by **bensdad** on Sun May 26, 2013 6:58 am

Islam is just a religion and can easily be practiced responsibly just like Christianity.

This comment is so full of... fail/naivete/misdirection/untruth... One hardly knows where to begin. How is killing homosexuals responsible? How is imprisoning women for being raped responsible? How is blowing up buildings responsible? How is leveling the churches of other faiths responsible? How is refusing educational opportunities to women responsible? How is a world-wide pants-pooping session because your prophet was drawn funny responsible?

Muslims would have us all in chains, underground or converted. They are allowed to: let women wear shorts, eat a ham sammich, have a beer with the neighbor, shake hands with a homosexual, let their daughter go to school, etc. etc. etc. SO LONG AS IT FURTHERS THE CAUSE OF ISLAM. You think you see a bunch of moderate, peace-loving Muslims. What you really see is people who have read - and are following - the word of Allah.

I think a couple kiddies on here are either Muslim, or are buried so deep in the religion of equality (possibly because they themselves are a member of a persecuted group) that the obvious truth of Islam escapes their perception.