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Re: Zimmerman Self-Defense Trial off to Acceptable Start :)

Postby Homeontherange on Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:06 am

MasonK wrote:
Heffay wrote:
BigDog58 wrote:Justice Has Been Served!


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-574 ... ing-shots/


Granted, we don't have the details of the case but this looks like a travesty of justice.

But then again, you don't fire warning shots- you shoot to stop a threat. This is why you consult an attorney before you make a statement. In the words of Joe Freedberg- it costs you $10,000 per word for me to undo the damage you inflict by talking to the police without me there.


It may be that the primary travesty of justice here was CBS's "reporting."
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Re: Zimmerman Self-Defense Trial off to Acceptable Start :)

Postby mnmike59 on Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:15 am

THIS CASE SHOULD NEVER HAVE GONE TO TRIAL. The Judge that allowed it was obviously politically motivated. probably by POTUS.

Great response from the defense team! watch this vid. you can skip directly to 28:46 to see what IMHO is exactly what happened.
http://video.foxnews.com/v/2543998108001/defense-team-reacts-to-zimmerman-trial-verdict/
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Re: Zimmerman Self-Defense Trial off to Acceptable Start :)

Postby XDM45 on Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:53 am

1) I'm glad GZ was found Not Guilty. This case shouldn't have ever gone to trial. Unfortunately, a certain ethnic group will riot and GZ will always need to look over his shoulder for the rest of his life. As such, I hope GZ's gun rights are restored and he can get a PTC/CCW again.

2) GZ did the World a favor by taking out a gold-teeth-wearing, pot-smoking, illegal-possession-of-a-firearm, thug. Good for him!! Maybe if that happened more often, people wouldn't be so quick to do crime because they'd be dead versus cycling in and out of the system as they commit crimes.

3) How come Obama didn't say that lady that was thrown down the stairs in NJ was like a daughter to him? Was it because she was white and the guy doing it was black? How come that crime didn't get the press it deserved? Unlike GZ and TM, that incident was actually caught on video of some thug assaulting someone.

4) If GZ was found guilty, you wouldn't see white people rioting over it now would ya?
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Re: Zimmerman Self-Defense Trial off to Acceptable Start :)

Postby grousemaster on Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:17 am

XDM45 wrote:1) I'm glad GZ was found Not Guilty. This case shouldn't have ever gone to trial. Unfortunately, a certain ethnic group will riot and GZ will always need to look over his shoulder for the rest of his life. As such, I hope GZ's gun rights are restored and he can get a PTC/CCW again.

2) GZ did the World a favor by taking out a gold-teeth-wearing, pot-smoking, illegal-possession-of-a-firearm, thug. Good for him!! Maybe if that happened more often, people wouldn't be so quick to do crime because they'd be dead versus cycling in and out of the system as they commit crimes.

3) How come Obama didn't say that lady that was thrown down the stairs in NJ was like a daughter to him? Was it because she was white and the guy doing it was black? How come that crime didn't get the press it deserved? Unlike GZ and TM, that incident was actually caught on video of some thug assaulting someone.

4) If GZ was found guilty, you wouldn't see white people rioting over it now would ya?


Really? Trayvon Martin being shot was a favor to us? That's pretty sick man....
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Re: Zimmerman Self-Defense Trial off to Acceptable Start :)

Postby MasonK on Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:45 am

Heffay wrote:
I wonder if there will be a 34 page thread about this travesty of justice...


No, but in the interest of putting more information out about it, here is some more information [emphasis mine]:

Saying he had no discretion under state law, a judge sentenced a Jacksonville, Florida, woman to 20 years in prison Friday for firing a warning shot in an effort to scare off her abusive husband.

Marissa Alexander unsuccessfully tried to use Florida's controversial "stand your ground" law to derail the prosecution, but a jury in March convicted her of aggravated assault after just 12 minutes of deliberation.

The case, which was prosecuted by the same state attorney who is handling the Trayvon Martin case, has gained the attention of civil rights leaders who say the African-American woman was persecuted because of her race.

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'Stand your ground' plea rejected.

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Corey said the case deserved to be prosecuted because Alexander fired in the direction of a room where two children were standing.


Alexander said she was attempting to flee her husband, Rico Gray, on August 1, 2010, when she picked up a handgun and fired a shot into a wall.

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She said her husband had read cell phone text messages that she had written to her ex-husband, got angry and tried to strangle her.
She said she escaped and ran to the garage, intending to drive away. But, she said, she forgot her keys, so she picked up her gun and went back into the house. She said her husband threatened to kill her, so she fired one shot.

"I believe when he threatened to kill me, that's what he was absolutely going to do," she said. "That's what he intended to do. Had I not discharged my weapon at that point, I would not be here."

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But a previous judge in the case rejected the request, saying Alexander's decision to go back into the house was not consistent with someone in fear for her safety, according to the Florida Times Union newspaper.


So we have her leaving the premises, then re-entering with a gun to get her keys. She could have fled on foot because it does not appear that he was following her. She then was threatened, she discharges her weapon not at the threat, but near him- firing into a room with children present. There are some issues here which I would love to see explained in the testimony which I have not been able to locate yet.

I'm still not saying she should get 20 years, or even 20 days yet, but the article which was thin on facts painted this incident in a very different manner.

[Edited to revise and extend my remarks]
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Re: Zimmerman Self-Defense Trial off to Acceptable Start :)

Postby XDM45 on Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:16 am

grousemaster wrote:
XDM45 wrote:1) I'm glad GZ was found Not Guilty. This case shouldn't have ever gone to trial. Unfortunately, a certain ethnic group will riot and GZ will always need to look over his shoulder for the rest of his life. As such, I hope GZ's gun rights are restored and he can get a PTC/CCW again.

2) GZ did the World a favor by taking out a gold-teeth-wearing, pot-smoking, illegal-possession-of-a-firearm, thug. Good for him!! Maybe if that happened more often, people wouldn't be so quick to do crime because they'd be dead versus cycling in and out of the system as they commit crimes.

3) How come Obama didn't say that lady that was thrown down the stairs in NJ was like a daughter to him? Was it because she was white and the guy doing it was black? How come that crime didn't get the press it deserved? Unlike GZ and TM, that incident was actually caught on video of some thug assaulting someone.

4) If GZ was found guilty, you wouldn't see white people rioting over it now would ya?


Really? Trayvon Martin being shot was a favor to us? That's pretty sick man....


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Re: Zimmerman Self-Defense Trial off to Acceptable Start :)

Postby minnhawk on Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:32 am

It is going to be pretty tough for the DOJ to file charges on Zimmerman.....remember, the FBI conducted an investigation early on and decided that there was no racial motivation in the shooting. Kinda hard to get around the FBI and file civil rights violation charges, I would think.

I also keep reading on LegalInsurrection.com that Florida does not allow for a civil suite, i.e. a wrongful death suit in a self-defense shooting.
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Re: Zimmerman Self-Defense Trial off to Acceptable Start :)

Postby grousemaster on Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:22 pm

XDM45 wrote:
grousemaster wrote:
XDM45 wrote:1) I'm glad GZ was found Not Guilty. This case shouldn't have ever gone to trial. Unfortunately, a certain ethnic group will riot and GZ will always need to look over his shoulder for the rest of his life. As such, I hope GZ's gun rights are restored and he can get a PTC/CCW again.

2) GZ did the World a favor by taking out a gold-teeth-wearing, pot-smoking, illegal-possession-of-a-firearm, thug. Good for him!! Maybe if that happened more often, people wouldn't be so quick to do crime because they'd be dead versus cycling in and out of the system as they commit crimes.

3) How come Obama didn't say that lady that was thrown down the stairs in NJ was like a daughter to him? Was it because she was white and the guy doing it was black? How come that crime didn't get the press it deserved? Unlike GZ and TM, that incident was actually caught on video of some thug assaulting someone.

4) If GZ was found guilty, you wouldn't see white people rioting over it now would ya?


Really? Trayvon Martin being shot was a favor to us? That's pretty sick man....


No sympathy for thugs, gangsta, criminals, pedophiles or other such ilk from me.



How do you know the gun was illegal? How do you know he was a "thug"? What is a thug in your opinion?
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Re: Zimmerman Self-Defense Trial off to Acceptable Start :)

Postby gunsmith on Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:19 pm

CNN HLN AND MSNBC are providing exceptional entertainment today....if you want to have a chuckle tune in and see the Lib-Tards blubbering in Self-Pity...one Lawyer chick is wearing a hoodie.

LIBERAL BUTT-HURT ON PARADE :)
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Re: Zimmerman Self-Defense Trial off to Acceptable Start :)

Postby gunsmith on Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:58 pm

MSNBC:
"OPEN SEASON ON BLACK MALES" Waaah, Waaaah, Waaah,
oh it's so much fun watching the Lib Tards wet their Depends.
Waaah, Waaaah, Waaaah.

This level of Hysteria should last all week...but these sheep are BLEATING, MOMMIE MY DIAPIE IS WET.

Great entertainment.

NOT ONE MENTION OF ZIMMERMAN'S LAWSUIT AGAINST NBC FOR DOCTORING HIS 911 CALL TO DELIBERATELY MAKE HIM APPEAR TO BE A RACIST 'CRACKKA'
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Re: Zimmerman Self-Defense Trial off to Acceptable Start :)

Postby Heffay on Sun Jul 14, 2013 2:09 pm

grousemaster wrote:How do you know the gun was illegal? How do you know he was a "thug"? What is a thug in your opinion?


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Re: Zimmerman Self-Defense Trial off to Acceptable Start :)

Postby gunsmith on Sun Jul 14, 2013 2:27 pm

Also a big SHOUT OUT OF THANKS to the Prosecution Team for Screwing the Pooch in arguing this Case...that includes Dowdy Judge and Sweat Hog Prosecutor Angela Corey.

THANKS ASS-CLOWNS :)
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Re: Zimmerman Self-Defense Trial off to Acceptable Start :)

Postby gunsmith on Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:02 pm

MSNBC: Zimmerman's got his gun back.

Put that sucker on Ebay for $10,000.00

There's a Republican millionaire/billionaire who'll go for it.
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Re: Zimmerman Self-Defense Trial off to Acceptable Start :)

Postby grousemaster on Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:29 pm

gunsmith wrote:MSNBC: Zimmerman's got his gun back.

Put that sucker on Ebay for $10,000.00

There's a Republican millionaire/billionaire who'll go for it.


Ebay? How many posts are you gonna make on this thread? You can make longer/fewer posts.
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Re: Zimmerman Self-Defense Trial off to Acceptable Start :)

Postby mnmike59 on Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:47 pm

@Gunsmith.
I do share your enthusiasm towards the verdict, but I think you're a little over the top.
It IS a tragedy that a person was killed, Nobody truly wins in a situation like this. As one of the well known Gun community forums, post like these don't reflect well on us.
Nothing personal, Just sayin.
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