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No More Tannerite Because ... Fire! ... Terrorists!

Postby rugersol on Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:28 am

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/06/fbi-warns-exploding-targets-could-be-used-for-ieds/

An order issued Monday by the agency bans the targets in forests and grasslands in Colorado, Wyoming, Kansas, Nebraska and South Dakota. Violators could face a fine of up to $5,000 and be sent prison for up to six months. But perhaps just as worrisome as the potential for starting fires is the targets' potential for yielding bomb-making ingredients.

“…the FBI has identified multiple incidents where criminals and extremists have explored the possibility of employing the binary explosive mixture obtained from ETs as a means to commit criminal and terrorist acts,” stated a report released earlier this year by the FBI’s Terrorist Explosive Device Analytical Center.


...wait for it ...

In the wake of the Boston Marathon bombing, the late Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J., proposed the Explosive Materials Background Check to address the sale of black and smokeless gunpowder.

Currently, an individual can purchase up to 50 pounds of black powder without a background check and unlimited quantities of smokeless and black powder substitutes, which binary targets essentially become after being mixed.
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Re: No More Tannerite Because ... Fire! ... Terrorists!

Postby Heffay on Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:40 am

So, you do need a background check to buy more than 50 lbs?

Where's the problem?
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Re: No More Tannerite Because ... Fire! ... Terrorists!

Postby darkwolf45 on Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:06 pm

There is none, which is why we need to invent one!!
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Re: No More Tannerite Because ... Fire! ... Terrorists!

Postby lizard55033 on Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:57 pm

out of all the Tannerite I have used; I have never seen fire afterwards...
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Re: No More Tannerite Because ... Fire! ... Terrorists!

Postby bensdad on Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:44 am

lizard55033 wrote:out of all the Tannerite I have used; I have never seen fire afterwards...


Neither have I. It does have moderate concussive force though.
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Re: No More Tannerite Because ... Fire! ... Terrorists!

Postby george on Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:29 am

Heffay wrote:So, you do need a background check to buy more than 50 lbs?

Where's the problem?

I read nothing about over 50#, as I see it, it would include all purchases if implemented.
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Re: No More Tannerite Because ... Fire! ... Terrorists!

Postby george on Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:36 am

george wrote:
Heffay wrote:So, you do need a background check to buy more than 50 lbs?

Where's the problem?

I read nothing about over 50#, as I see it, it would include all purchases if implemented.


FOUND IT AFTER REREADING, WAY AT THE BOTTOM OF BILL-------SORRY
H.R. 2836: Explosive Materials Background Check Act
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr2836/text

I'm still going to edit to say It will include all sales, but I'm having a hard time putting this into title 18 of US code.
No wonder it's so hard to see the changes until it's passed!!!
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Re: No More Tannerite Because ... Fire! ... Terrorists!

Postby rugersol on Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:41 am

50 lbs is fine ... IIRC, the break for Hazmat is 48 lbs?!

... 'til they decide it s/b 40 lbs ... then 30 lbs ... then 20 lbs ...
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Re: No More Tannerite Because ... Fire! ... Terrorists!

Postby photogpat on Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:24 am

Tannerite does not become smokeless powder OR black powder after being mixed -- neither powder is shock sensitive, and mixed Tannerite is most certainly NOT used as a black powder substitute by any sane person.

I don't see where binary targets are regulated in this bill...
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