Dash cam: Texas Long gun open carry arrest w/ civilian cam

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Dash cam: Texas Long gun open carry arrest w/ civilian cam

Postby gunsmith on Fri Nov 22, 2013 1:00 pm

This could have gone better...but fortunately was 'under control' There's something to be learned from watching it...'Attitude' is one. One of my skills is 'salesman' and it's always best to find a personal connection to the person you are working with...the Open Carrier could have done that a little better... Interesting.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/11 ... iting-for/



Officials in Bell County, Texas, have released the dashcam footage of a police officer in Temple, Texas, disarming and arresting decorated veteran C.J. Grisham while he was on a hike with his son in March. The officer is seen grabbing the dad’s gun and then seemingly attempting to unlatch it from the man’s sling without telling him why or asking for permission.

Video recorded by Grisham and his son went viral earlier this year, but it did not show the moment the dad was approached and disarmed by the officer. He was later charged with “interference with duties of a public servant,” though the officer is heard in the video from March telling Grisham he was stopped for “rudely displaying” his rifle.

On Nov. 19, Grisham was found guilty by a jury of three men and three women of “interference with duties of a public servant” and ordered to pay a $2,000 fine. In an email to TheBlaze, the veteran said he plans to appeal the decision.

In the newly released dashcam video, officer Steven Ernis can be seen flagging down Grisham and asking him, “What are we doing?”

“We’re hiking,” Grisham replies.

Ernis, without warning, grabs Grisham’s AR-15 semi-automatic rifle and examines it.




“Some reason why you have this?” the officer asks in the video.

“Because I can,” Grisham shoots back.

“Well, OK,” Ernis says as he seems to attempt to unlatch the firearm from its sling.

That’s where things spun out of control.

“Hey, don’t disarm me man!” Grisham says, grabbing the butt of the rifle.

The officer immediately drew his pistol and yelled, “Get your hand off the gun!” Grisham removed his hand from his gun and protested before Ernis slammed him on his squad car, his pistol still in hand.
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Re: Dash cam: Texas Long gun open carry arrest w/ civilian cam

Postby river_boater on Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:08 pm

There's more to this Grisham nutcase than most folks know about...
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Re: Dash cam: Texas Long gun open carry arrest w/ civilian cam

Postby gunsmith on Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:00 pm

...I thought the 'Cinema Verite' element was useful. A cordial attitude from the open carrier would have gone a long way...
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Re: Dash cam: Texas Long gun open carry arrest w/ civilian cam

Postby Back In Black on Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:46 pm

Reminds me of the opening scene of Rambo.

That cop is lucky to be alive. Had he encountered a true "nutcase" he'd be dead. He's in serious need of some retraining.
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Re: Dash cam: Texas Long gun open carry arrest w/ civilian cam

Postby ericinmn1970 on Sat Nov 23, 2013 6:13 pm

A few thoughts I had about this:
• This Grisham fellow obviously wanted attention and was trying to make some statement. I recently learned that, from people on these forums, regarding open carriers!
• It's wrong that the cop can just walk up and take your firearm off of you without a word or just cause. If that's the case then the 2A is no longer a right and we've lost and don't realize it yet.
• If open carry is allowed, yet cops respond like that when some whiney hoplophobe calls the police, seems like the rule of law no longer applies.

I think both the cop and Grisham handled the situation wrong. The cop gets away with it because he has much more backing him up than an average citizen. I think Grisham should have just shut up, recorded the encounter for documentation, and then did his best to deal with it through the legal process. It's slow and tedious, but much better than getting your head blown off.
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