A novel approach to increased police accountability In Mpls.

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Re: A novel approach to increased police accountability In Mpls.

Postby farmerj on Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:19 am

If they are poor performers or routinely abusing the position, the only appropriate response is to remove them from it. Especially one so demanding of public trust.
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Re: A novel approach to increased police accountability In Mpls.

Postby Countryfried Frank on Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:40 am

Agreed. But the question is how to do that in the context of a CBA? The article linked in the OP proposes an insurance scheme to accomplish that. The other concern that they are attempting to address is the large payouts. I don't believe that their PLI scheme will have the intended result.
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Re: A novel approach to increased police accountability In Mpls.

Postby farmerj on Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:07 am

It would mean something then that if the same names are showing up on payouts they need something done about a person.

Reputations are hard and people tend to continue doing something unless a serious lesson is taught.

Maybe instead of just allowing them to payout it's really time to clean house.
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Re: A novel approach to increased police accountability In Mpls.

Postby LePetomane on Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:38 am

It's time for the city to quit bowing to the pressure put on them by the unions that represent these rogue policemen. Make them put their personal assets at risk and they will behave better.
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Re: A novel approach to increased police accountability In Mpls.

Postby jbrawny on Sat Nov 23, 2013 12:35 am

I'm wondering what the real affect of requiring cops to have professional liability insurance of their own. I see police work done is two ways, reactive and proactive. Reactive is going to calls, taking reports, going to crime scenes, responding after a crime has already been committed. Proactive is going after the gandbangers, drug dealers, drunk drivers, known criminals, trying to catch them before or while they're committing the crime. The proactive way carries a lot more risk of a confrontation with criminals than the reactive way.

If I was a cop and I was required to carry my own professional liability insurance to do my job, why would I risk being sued personally by being proactive. Since the pay is the same, why not be reactive instead.

As a Minneapolis resident, I want the cops here to be proactive. Ofcourse, I don't like my tax money going to pay-out because of rogue cops. But requiring the cops to have professional liability insurance will not work in my opinion.
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Re: A novel approach to increased police accountability In Mpls.

Postby RealDeal on Sat Nov 23, 2013 10:07 am

jbrawny, you pretty much nailed it. This kind of liberal nonsense/proposal has no shot of happening in MN. This kind of anti LE topic is bothersome, to say the least. I've seen too much of the anti LE rhetoric, on firearms message boards lately. It really goes to show how ignorant some are, about how LE officers do their jobs, and what is all involved in it.
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Re: A novel approach to increased police accountability In Mpls.

Postby Hmac on Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:20 am

RealDeal wrote:jbrawny, you pretty much nailed it. This kind of liberal nonsense/proposal has no shot of happening in MN. This kind of anti LE topic is bothersome, to say the least. I've seen too much of the anti LE rhetoric, on firearms message boards lately. It really goes to show how ignorant some are, about how LE officers do their jobs, and what is all involved in it.


Probably correct. Media and Internet attention on numerous examples of police abusing their authority, sometimes egregiously, probably gives an exaggerated sense of the frequency with which it happens. Minneapolis PD's rather astonishing liability payouts notwithstanding, of course.
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Re: A novel approach to increased police accountability In Mpls.

Postby Hmac on Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:22 am

farmerj wrote:If they are poor performers or routinely abusing the position, the only appropriate response is to remove them from it. Especially one so demanding of public trust.

Certainly that would be the normal result in a non-union shop.
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