Mpls Mayor Candidate Brutally Clubbed at MOA Iphone robbery

[XDM45]

It wouldn't be the first time someone was unintentionally misquoted due to an error made copying a quote within a quote

Eh, it happens All good.

[Randygmn]

So what is the consensus of the members here? See old guy getting beaten to death- step up by saying to the attackers, "hey, leave him alone"!!!!! Attackers turn on me with their deadly weapon. Have I improperly escalated the situation? Is it "defense" at that point? Can I use deadly force, after all, I just witnessed a brutal clubbing that only stopped when confronted, all the while they yelled' "I'm going to kill you".

Not sure what I'd do. Of course if I was getting beaten, or my family, I'm going to use as much force as necessary to stop it. But to protect a stranger? I'm not normally the kind of person who's going to let an older person get beaten, though.

[ericinmn1970]

I don't think I could just walk away or stand by and watch.

*Pure Speculation*
I likely would have went for the female swinging the baton, as she presented the greatest threat. Perhaps, with her attention focused on clubbing an old man in the skull, she wouldn't notice me coming up to cold-cock her hard upside her own skull. Obviously I would then relieve the assailant of her baton. My next course of action would be in stopping the other one who is on the guy's back. Maybe upon seeing her accomplice knocked cold, with me coming toward her while holding her friend's baton, she'd realize she's now outnumbered, and get smart enough to beat cheeks outta there.

This is neither here nor there, but I was raised to not hit a lady. I don't consider females committing assault ladies, so my integrity should remain intact.

[mmcnx2]

Well, first I'd have to ask the left wing communist being clubbed if he felt his assailants needed guidance in their life and if so what he was comfortable with. Then I'd have to ask the assailants if there would not be offended by the guidance that was suggested. Once they all agreed to the preferred course of action I'd need to survey the public to determine if anyone else might be offended, consider it bias or discriminatory, and how the media would present it.

Once everyone deemed the guidance appropriate and entitled I'd have to seek funding from the public to cover expenses of the services, government oversight, litigation and payoffs to the various community leaders.

Lastly, I'd have to wait until the government program was established to provide the guidance needed only to realize it could provide a bunch of other useless services but not those we agreed it would.

On second thought I guess it will be easier to just ignore the guy being clubbed because he is to ignorant to provide his own protection.

OK, seriously, I know I should help, it is the moral and humane thing to do, and in a perfect world what I should do. But in this days of lawsuits and crazy police departments, I most likely would dial 911 and try to be the best witness I could without interjecting myself into the actual incident(or more accurately I'd take the limp sausage way out). Honestly, I can't risk my personal responsibility to my family to risk a lawsuit or even jail time over a stranger.

[gunsmith]

If you follow the link to the 'Complaint' pdf titled 'Andrew' you'll read the description of the interview with the PD.

After Miranda warning they still said they were going to have him killed...meaning you've got 17 & 18 year old girls who are hard cases. These were methodical criminals, they scoped out the Starbucks to see if it was 'Sweet' meaning...if there were Lib-Tards stitting around with their Iphones & Ipads exposed.

These kids take the #5 bus from the Ghetto to the MOA and I hear it's an unpleasant experience to be on that route.

My approach to these thugs is

Orphanages,
Reform School,
3 strikes you're out.

[XDM45]

OK, seriously, I know I should help, it is the moral and humane thing to do, and in a perfect world what I should do. But in this days of lawsuits and crazy police departments, I most likely would dial 911 and try to be the best witness I could without interjecting myself into the actual incident(or more accurately I'd take the limp sausage way out). Honestly, I can't risk my personal responsibility to my family to risk a lawsuit or even jail time over a stranger.

Exactly.

We do not have an American JUSTICE System. We have an American LEGAL System. Sometimes both Justice and the Law prevail, but more times often than not, Justice loses out to the Law. What is Legal is not always Just, and what is Just is not always Legal. There is what we as individuals hold true as Morally and Ethically Right; and when enough individuals think the same way, then it becomes our society which agrees on those Morals and Ethics; however, that may not be in agreement with the Law. Take this for example......... does anyone disagree that someone who rapes a child shouldn't be taken out back and shot execution style in the back of the head? Maybe even after torturing them first? Forget the Law. Think about your own personal Morals and Ethics. Shouldn't scumbags like that be removed from the earth? I think so. However, THE LAW says otherwise. If it allowed such things, I can promise you it'd be misused, abused, etc. I doubt any one of us (that's not a lawyer), would defend a pedophile, who would or could otherwise?

You could do everything LEGALLY right to defend someone else and STILL be screwed financially, emotionally, on your job, in life in general. No fair, but true. It's almost like the guy who was in prison for 25 years, DNA evidence finally exonerated him by proving his innocents, but he's still screwed. He's not getting a job because even though he's innocent, he still spent 25 years in the can. No one will hire him. He's not going to get his life back, that time back, no, he's pretty much effed. If I am going to put my ass on the line, it's not going to be defend ANYONE else except my wife, my blood family, or myself. Everyone is screwed. No one should count on me to save their ass except family. I sure as hell don't count on anyone else to save mine in a situation where someone is threatening it with deadly force.

I totally agree with mmcnx2's statement "I can't risk my personal responsibility to my family to risk a lawsuit or even jail time over a stranger" because the fact is that we live in a litigious society where everyone is sue happy and some guy who takes a piss outside a bar at 2am and gets busted will be forced to comply with Meghan's Law (aka become a Registered Sex Offender). The law isn't there to help you, it's there to limit you and your freedoms. Sad to say, but the more laws we have, the less freedoms and rights we have.

[gunsmith]

One picture is worth a thousand words:

[Spartan]

This is why liberals should dress in such a way that they can identify each other ..... I'm sure the assailants would have either been more gentile or passed over this liberal is they had know how much white- guilt he had ...... i'm sure they would have sang coombe by yas with him... if only they would have known ..... we need uniforms ..... maybe some very drab and plain ... very utilitarian .... maybe olive drab or mid-gray ..... oh and the uniform needs a hat ... .......... hummmmm

I guess its been done and it didn't work then either ....... hummmmm ..... maybe a slogan ..... non - workers unite! .... been done right ?

[XDM45]

This is why liberals should dress in such a way that they can identify each other ..... I'm sure the assailants would have either been more gentile or passed over this liberal is they had know how much white- guilt he had ...... i'm sure they would have sang coombe by yas with him... if only they would have known ..... we need uniforms ..... maybe some very drab and plain ... very utilitarian .... maybe olive drab or mid-gray ..... oh and the uniform needs a hat ... .......... hummmmm

I guess its been done and it didn't work then either ....... hummmmm ..... maybe a slogan ..... non - workers unite! .... been done right ?

I guess if the World was all Republicans and Conservatives where everyone agreed and had the same opinion then fairies would shat gold bricks and fart rainbows eh? Not a World I'd want to live in. Hang on why I remove myself from it. After all, I have a .45ACP

[LePetomane]

If we're not careful in this crazy state our wives and daughters will be forced to wear the rags on their heads so as not to offend anyone.

[rtk]

"Don’t go to stupid places with stupid people and do stupid things".....He should have taken training from John Farnam, he has been in town on a regular basis.

[xd ED]

"Don’t go to stupid places with stupid people and do stupid things".....He should have taken training from John Farnam, he has been in town on a regular basis.

^^^THIS^^^THIs^^^and ^^^THIS^^^
Setting aside my personal thoughts about all the reasons not to go to the moa,
I am endlessly amazed by the naiveté/ condition white of so many people…. leaving laptops/ phones loose, in the open at coffee shops, restaurants when they go to the rest room, order pick up, etc. Women who leave their purses in shopping carts,when they are 20+ feet away, with their earbuds in…. people, especially young women wandering around, zoned out texting….

I'm surprised this kind of crap doesn't happen more frequently, then again it probably does… and it's only newsworthy when trendy politicians are the victims….

[Rip Van Winkle]

There's no way I would intervene in an assault on a known anti.

Odds are too great they would testify against you for using excessive force if things went pear shaped.

[hunterfreakhd]

"Don’t go to stupid places with stupid people and do stupid things".....He should have taken training from John Farnam, he has been in town on a regular basis.

x 10 I wouldn't go to that hell hole if I was promised free dinner at the rain forest café with a naked Swedish model.

[Rip Van Winkle]

Setting aside my personal thoughts about all the reasons not to go to the moa,
I am endlessly amazed by the naiveté/ condition white of so many people…. leaving laptops/ phones loose, in the open at coffee shops, restaurants when they go to the rest room, order pick up, etc. Women who leave their purses in shopping carts,when they are 20+ feet away, with their earbuds in…. people, especially young women wandering around, zoned out texting….

I'm always amazed at how few people will make eye contact with you as you walk through a crowd.

They might as well be carrying signs saying "easy victim".