Confiscation has begun in Connecticut.

[Texastransplant]

Then you'd love Mike Cargill. A gay African-American gun store owner Republican. Great guy! Good prices too!

But exactly. For the time being, I'm single issue as well.

[mrp]

Where I'm from, we have and will stand up for liberty.

Really? Tell me, before you came here, did you stand up for liberty by carrying your firearm:

- on the premises of a polling place on the day of an election

- on the premises of a racetrack

- in a business that derives 51 percent or more of its income from the sale or service of alcoholic beverages

- on the premises where a high school, collegiate, or professional sporting event or interscholastic event is taking place

- on the premises of a hospital, or on the premises of a nursing home

- in an amusement park

- on the premises of a church

- at any meeting of a governmental entity.

I've carried at all these places here in Minnesota except a racetrack, and that's only because I've never been to a racetrack.

In a manner such that people could see it?

Me? Heck no! But neither am I going on about standing up for liberty or "Molon Labe!"

[ericinmn1970]

As crappy and scary as the thought of gun registration and confiscation is, it might not be unconstitutional. There's a difference between registration as a permissible regulation and registration as good policy. Gun registration has happened in this country in the past. It's just that in the 18th & 19th centuries, gun ownership did not have the negative stigma it seems to have in today's world.

In Heller, Justice Antonin Scalia noted that because the plaintiffs "conceded at oral argument" that they did not "have a problem with... licensing," the court "did not address the licensing requirement." However, an appeals court in the case did, and suggested that registration was fine: "Reasonable restrictions also might be thought consistent with a 'well regulated militia.' The registration of firearms gives the government information as to how many people would be armed for militia service if called up."

I think what's at issue in this is whether the CT law could be challenged and considered "unreasonable" and also whether confiscation itself, under no pretext, is unconstitutional.

[ericinmn1970]

I couldn't care less if 99.9% of the great state of Minnesota voted to take every one of my firearms. It would still be wrong and they can come get them if they dare. Why? Because this isn't a pure democracy. We are a Republic in which certain rights are recognized, not granted, by our Constitution, one of which is to keep and bear arms, which shall not be infringed! Molon Labe!

No offence, but you sound just like the Union boys on the Iron Range with their Obama and Frankin bumper stickers plastered all over their vehicles. Any and all conversation with them about the 2nd Amendment, always starts and ends with " I'd like to see em try".

These are the same guys that still have the same box of 30-30 shells that they have had since, forever. Don't shoot, don't practice, don't care and can't hit ****. Beer bellied blowhards that will run for cover faster than fast if they actually ran into agents that, TRY.

Democrats, go figure.

It's not that I don't think that the folks proclaiming "Molon Labe" all over facebook and gun forums wouldn't put up a fight; it's that I think they would, foolishly, and then die alone in a pool of their own blood. That would serve little purpose as the media would portray "the lone gunman" as an anti-establishment kook. That likely won't start the "next revolution" either.

[Texastransplant]

I couldn't care less if 99.9% of the great state of Minnesota voted to take every one of my firearms. It would still be wrong and they can come get them if they dare. Why? Because this isn't a pure democracy. We are a Republic in which certain rights are recognized, not granted, by our Constitution, one of which is to keep and bear arms, which shall not be infringed! Molon Labe!

No offence, but you sound just like the Union boys on the Iron Range with their Obama and Frankin bumper stickers plastered all over their vehicles. Any and all conversation with them about the 2nd Amendment, always starts and ends with " I'd like to see em try".

These are the same guys that still have the same box of 30-30 shells that they have had since, forever. Don't shoot, don't practice, don't care and can't hit ****. Beer bellied blowhards that will run for cover faster than fast if they actually ran into agents that, TRY.

Democrats, go figure.

It's not that I don't think that the folks proclaiming "Molon Labe" all over facebook and gun forums wouldn't put up a fight; it's that I think they would, foolishly, and then die alone in a pool of their own blood. That would serve little purpose as the media would portray "the lone gunman" as an anti-establishment kook. That likely won't start the "next revolution" either.

So are you insinuating that when "they" start knocking on doors, you'd just stand by and allow it to happen? We don't have to be "lone gunmen" you know. You could stand up with us.

[ericinmn1970]

So are you insinuating that when "they" start knocking on doors, you'd just stand by and allow it to happen?

If I'm alone and they are many, well armed, in full tactical gear, have the drop on me, and I've zero chance of escape or survival, yep. Because again, what purpose would my death serve dying in such a manner? If you want to go down that way, that's you.

We don't have to be "lone gunmen" you know. You could stand up with us.

This is more what I'm hoping would happen. Some may get disarmed but then come back with troops of their own.

[Texastransplant]

So are you insinuating that when "they" start knocking on doors, you'd just stand by and allow it to happen?

If I'm alone and they are many, well armed, in full tactical gear, have the drop on me, and I've zero chance of escape or survival, yep. Because again, what purpose would my death serve dying in such a manner? If you want to go down that way, that's you.

We don't have to be "lone gunmen" you know. You could stand up with us.

This is more what I'm hoping would happen. Some may get disarmed but then come back with troops of their own.

On the first point, I concede. One would hope, however, that once the long knives come out, places like this forum would explode with information and the...well, you know. Which leads us to the second point, with which I whole-hearted lay agree.

[steve4102]

I think what's at issue in this is whether the CT law could be challenged and considered "unreasonable" and also whether confiscation itself, under no pretext, is unconstitutional.

It has been Challenged and it has been appealed.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/0 ... t-gun-ban/

http://ccdl.us/blog/uploads/2014/01/not ... -filed.pdf

[ericinmn1970]

So are you insinuating that when "they" start knocking on doors, you'd just stand by and allow it to happen?

If I'm alone and they are many, well armed, in full tactical gear, have the drop on me, and I've zero chance of escape or survival, yep. Because again, what purpose would my death serve dying in such a manner? If you want to go down that way, that's you.

We don't have to be "lone gunmen" you know. You could stand up with us.

This is more what I'm hoping would happen. Some may get disarmed but then come back with troops of their own.

On the first point, I concede. One would hope, however, that once the long knives come out, places like this forum would explode with information and the...well, you know. Which leads us to the second point, with which I whole-hearted lay agree.

That's one of the reasons I'm on this and a couple of other gun related forums and social media, to stay on top of the political climate and know, asap, when the shtf, so I can be part of the solution.

[Texastransplant]

That's one of the reasons I'm on this and a couple of other gun related forums and social media, to stay on top of the political climate and know, asap, when the shtf, so I can be part of the solution.

Now yer talkin'!

[cobb]

That's one of the reasons I'm on this and a couple of other gun related forums and social media, to stay on top of the political climate and know, asap, when the shtf, so I can be part of the solution.

Now yer talkin'!

Then you are a member of this organization, right?
http://www.gocra.org/

One of the best way to stay current on what is happing with your gun rights in Minnesota.

[ericinmn1970]

I think what's at issue in this is whether the CT law could be challenged and considered "unreasonable" and also whether confiscation itself, under no pretext, is unconstitutional.

It has been Challenged and it has been appealed.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/0 ... t-gun-ban/

http://ccdl.us/blog/uploads/2014/01/not ... -filed.pdf

It will be interesting to see if the appeal is successful.

[LePetomane]

Since when did the United States Constitution deter these anti gun people? They see it as an antiquated obstacle that must be overcome, not the rule of law.

[Texastransplant]

That's one of the reasons I'm on this and a couple of other gun related forums and social media, to stay on top of the political climate and know, asap, when the shtf, so I can be part of the solution.

Now yer talkin'!

Then you are a member of this organization, right?
http://www.gocra.org/

One of the best way to stay current on what is happing with your gun rights in Minnesota.

Yep. Just donated $50 as well last week. Not a rich man, but give when I can what I can.

[mrp]

http://ctcarry.com/News/Release/41660b9 ... e7ce437c73

Press Release

To Officials of the State of Connecticut: Either Enforce or Repeal 2013 Anti-gun Laws.

It’s time for the State to enforce the tyranny they passed or repeal it entirely.

....
“From Governor Malloy, to Undersecretary Lawlor to DESPP, Commissioner Schriro, and Lieutenant Cooke of the firearms unit, and including Lt. Paul Vance, the state needs to [the "S" word], or get off the pot. The fact is, the state does not have the balls to enforce these laws. The laws would not survive the public outcry and resistance that would occur.” - Connecticut Carry Director Ed Peruta