$2.2 Million for Pot Research

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Re: $2.2 Million for Pot Research

Postby LePetomane on Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:58 pm

To this state where the citizens have opened up their checkbook to a governor who believes in a Scandinavian style of socialism $2 million is nothing. But for him to use our $$$ to campaign and appeal to his potheads who elected him is wrong.
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Re: Re: $2.2 Million for Pot Research

Postby my1stpistol on Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:36 pm

LePetomane wrote:
redaudi wrote:I'm wholeheartedly in support of full, recreational legalization.

That is the intended end result. A lot of the potheads are too dishonest to admit. They would rather demonize those who do not share their opinion by parading some poor pathetic soul who they have convinced that pot is their only hope for their illness, be it real or imagined.

I find it ironic that some supporters of pot legalization on the basis personal freedoms are the same who want to limit Second Amendment freedoms.


This is very true. IMO they make themselves look foolish with that argument.
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Re: Re: $2.2 Million for Pot Research

Postby my1stpistol on Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:38 pm

Edit: double post
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Re: Re: $2.2 Million for Pot Research

Postby my1stpistol on Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:40 pm

PileDriver wrote:
LePetomane wrote:I find it ironic that some supporters of pot legalization on the basis personal freedoms are the same who want to limit Second Amendment freedoms.


And vice versa.

Very true.
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Re: $2.2 Million for Pot Research

Postby ex-LT on Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:09 am

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Re: $2.2 Million for Pot Research

Postby LePetomane on Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:23 pm

ex-LT,

Thanks for the update. Now our esteemed governor will be in the damage control mode and pit the dopers against law enforcement.
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Re: $2.2 Million for Pot Research

Postby connsolo on Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:03 pm

Let's get real here. Nobody needs to spend a penny, let alone 2.2 mil of our tax dollars, to "study" how weed works. Big pharma has been trying to figure it out for decades. As other posters have said, the push for medical legalization is simply a stepping stone for recreational use. But why so much political support? Because the war on weed has resulted in a lot of a certain political party's voters becoming felons. In essence, they're buying votes.
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Re: $2.2 Million for Pot Research

Postby XDM45 on Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:19 am

Synergy wrote:If there was something in pot that could be a medical benefit without actually getting high I could see it. Other than that the whole medical thing IMO is just an excuse to get high, it fixes nothing.


Google "Charlotte's Web" which is a strain higher in CBD (Cannabidoil) vs THC (the thing that makes you high). - http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/07/health/ch ... marijuana/ and http://www.leafly.com/sativa/charlottes-web for starters. Do the research for yourself. It sure seems to fix some things.

also, the US Government owns US Patent 6,630,507 which is for the medical use of this very same component in Marijuana = http://www.google.com/patents/US6630507
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Re: $2.2 Million for Pot Research

Postby Hmac on Wed Apr 02, 2014 6:23 am

If responsible and ethical doctors are going to participate in a prescription program, there has to be level one evidence of the drug 's safety and efficacy. Google "evidence based medicine". Then go see if you can find me some level one evidence supporting marijuana as any valid medical treatment. Where are the randomized prospective double-blinded trials that prove the safety and efficacy of this drug in the same way that every other form of medical or surgical treatment is proven before being used on actual live humans?

The whole medical marijuana controversy is nothing more than pot smokers wanting to get the stuff into pot smokers' hands via the back door by providing nothing more than anecdotal sob stories as justification for a medical solution to a social problem. What lunacy. All physicians should be embarrassed for their colleagues who are participating in this farcical "prescription" program.

Here's the abstract for the best summary of this pseudo-medical issue that I've read.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19296351 Proponents of medical marijuana should read the article, found here http://www.epubs.utah.edu/index.php/ulr ... le/143/125


And here's a nice summary of the state of clinical research into the main thrust of the supposed "medical benefits" (chemotherapy-induced nausea).

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/ ... onal/page7
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Re: $2.2 Million for Pot Research

Postby Hmac on Wed Apr 02, 2014 7:31 am

connsolo wrote:Let's get real here. Nobody needs to spend a penny, let alone 2.2 mil of our tax dollars, to "study" how weed works. Big pharma has been trying to figure it out for decades.


It isn't about how it works. The physiology is understood. It's about if it works for any valid medical treatment. If we're going to propose it as a medical treatment, that needs to be studied. It hasn't been.
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