Chipotle doesn't want our business

[45Badger]

I'll keep eating at Chipotle. Since we're using WW@ imagery, Fatman and Little Boy need to be dropped out of a B29 at high altitude. Dumb.

[gunsmith]

I'll keep eating at Chipotle. Since we're using WW@ imagery, Fatman and Little Boy need to be dropped out of a B29 at high altitude. Dumb.

[ronin069]

the lightbulb came on today with the OCT group

Joint Statement on OC of Long Arms[/B]
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE – Come and Take It Texas, Texas Carry, Gun Rights Across America and Open Carry Texas Joint Statement on OC of Long Arms

Over the past year, our members have done what no other organization has been able to do – put open carry at the forefront of the fight to restore gun rights for all Texans. As we have grown, we have had to adjust our efforts based on lessons learned through hundreds of open carry events, big and small.

Looking back, it has become clear that there is one area in which we have gotten the most resistance and suffered the largest setbacks: open carry of long arms into private businesses. This is not a new phenomenon. Early on, because of our efforts, the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission (TABC) sent a message to all TABC licensees warning them about allowing our members to open carry into their businesses. This resulted in places like Smashburger asking us to leave our guns at home. Since then, Starbucks, Wendy’s, Jack In The Box, Applebees and most recently, Chipotle have come out asking we not carry our firearms into their establishments.

Whereas, our mission is to get open carry of handguns passed in Texas, we must once again adjust in a way that shines a positive light on our efforts, our members, and our respective organizations. We have decided the prudent path, to further our goals, is to immediately cease taking long guns into corporate businesses unless invited. Black Powder revolvers have proven to be very effective and align with our goal of legalizing open carry with a handgun. We do understand that not everyone will be able to afford one, but if you can, we are requesting you do so. Almost every leader has gone to Black powder for a reason. It works.

For all further open carry walks with long guns, we are adopting the following unified protocol and general policy to best ensure meeting our respective legislative mission to legalize open carry:

1) Always notify local law enforcement prior to the walk, especially the day of
2) Carry Flags and signs during your walk to increase awareness
3) Carry the long gun on a sling, not held
4) Do not go into corporate businesses without prior permission, preferably not at all
5) If asked to leave, do so quietly and do not make it a problem
6) Do not post pics publicly if you do get permission and are able to OC in a cooperate business
7) Do not go into businesses with TABC signs posted with a long gun (Ever)
8) If at all possible, keep to local small businesses that are 2A friendly

We ask that members take a step back and make an objective assessment of what we are trying to accomplish and help us to get open carry passed for everyone. We must be willing and able to recognize what works and what doesn’t, but we need your help to make these efforts a success. It will be very difficult to spin holstered, black powder revolvers into a negative story. This is the goal we are currently striving for, open carry of handguns. We know everyone is working hard for this cause. It is simply time to focus on what has been proven to work. The conversation has shifted from open carry of handguns to rifles in businesses, negating our efforts and distracting us from our mission.

We are winning. Because we are winning, we have come under increased scrutiny by media and politicians. Let’s use that spotlight and make the most positive impact we can!

Carry on! http://opencarrytexas.wordpres...-on-oc-of-long-arms/


FWIW the closed their Facebook group to the public too...

[Lumpy]

Black Powder revolvers have proven to be very effective and align with our goal of legalizing open carry with a handgun

Wtf? What is the purpose of that?

3) Carry the long gun on a sling, not held

This. If it were me I'd have no magazine loaded and a muzzle cap as well.

While I'm sympathetic to the open-carry movement, carrying long guns- unless you're going hunting or are marching in a demonstration or parade- is imho too much of a deliberate "in your face" gesture. Would anyone seriously make a long gun their day-to-day carry weapon? We're still trying to desensitize the hoplophobes to the sight of a holstered sidearm.

[Ironbear]

Black Powder revolvers have proven to be very effective and align with our goal of legalizing open carry with a handgun

Wtf? What is the purpose of that?

Base on the guidelines, I'm guessing that general open carry, of handguns (but not long arms), is restricted in Texas, but that doesn't include black power pistols. So the "raising awareness" part, they are suggesting, be done wearing holstered black powder handguns instead of long arms.

3) Carry the long gun on a sling, not held

This. If it were me I'd have no magazine loaded and a muzzle cap as well.

While I'm sympathetic to the open-carry movement, carrying long guns- unless you're going hunting or are marching in a demonstration or parade- is imho too much of a deliberate "in your face" gesture. Would anyone seriously make a long gun their day-to-day carry weapon? We're still trying to desensitize the hoplophobes to the sight of a holstered sidearm.

I'm going to agree with you completely on this. IMHO, why don't they just tape a sign of a hand, with the middle finger extended, to the barrel to complete the image they are presenting?

[Hmac]

While I'm sympathetic to the open-carry movement, carrying long guns- unless you're going hunting or are marching in a demonstration or parade- is imho too much of a deliberate "in your face" gesture. Would anyone seriously make a long gun their day-to-day carry weapon? We're still trying to desensitize the hoplophobes to the sight of a holstered sidearm.

I'm sympathetic to the concept of citizens having the freedom to carry firearms. I'm not sympathetic to the "open carry movement". Exercise your rights, fine. Throw those rights in the faces of those opposed...that is counterproductive. As a political statement, bad, bad , idea that harms us all. IMHO.

[rtk]

Some people push the limit and then wonder why more restrictions are put in place. And for those that preach that you must use a right or you will lose it, well be stupid and abuse a right and it will be lost.

Yep.

[xd ED]

I would even back things up a bit and challenge these so called "rights advocates" as to where in the Constitution they find the 'right' to intrude on the private property of others- for any reason, much less scare the crap out of someone's paying customers. Then we can discuss this illusionery relationship between an exposed and holstered sidearm, and carrying a rifle at the ready in areas where it could not be ordinarily used.
Whether or not this was a put up job by the antis, it is something I suspect they will further provoke and exploit as long as there are dipsticks enabling the hysteria.