Beretta Moving Out Of Maryland

View · by **LarryP** on Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:39 pm

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/07/22/be ... trol-laws/

View · by **Rip Van Winkle** on Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:45 pm

Speaking of companies bailing on anti states, does anyone know the status of Magpul in CO? Their website still lists their headquarters being in Bolder.

View · by **Ghost** on Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:34 am

Rip Van Winkle wrote:Speaking of companies bailing on anti states, does anyone know the status of Magpul in CO? Their website still lists their headquarters being in Bolder.

They are moving to Wyoming and Texas
http://www.magpul.com/move

View · by **Hmac** on Wed Jul 23, 2014 8:54 am

Here's a good article on the earlier background to the issue:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md- ... story.html

The company’s Italian patriarch, Ugo Gussalli Beretta, visited the plant shortly after O’Malley introduced his gun-control bill, and the two discussed the issue. But Reh declined to say if the two reached any decisions about what would happen if the governor’s bill passes.

“All I can tell you is, Mr. Beretta said, ‘There always seems to be a problem with Maryland.’ ”

and here's an article by Ugo Gussalli Beretta expressing his thoughts on the subject:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... -amendmen/

Ugo Gussalli Beretta -- "Maryland disrespects us and gun owners, so we expand in Tennessee"

View · by **ex-LT** on Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:12 am

Beretta said it has no plans to relocate its office, administrative and executive support functions

Not exactly moving out of Maryland, just moving their manufacturing operations.

View · by **xd ED** on Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:13 am

Interesting that there is still a member of the Beretta family at the helm. I believe the Beretta logo is the oldest trademark on the planet.

View · by **Holland&Holland** on Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:32 am

xd ED wrote:Interesting that there is still a member of the Beretta family at the helm. I believe the Beretta logo is the oldest trademark on the planet.

Oldest corporation in continuous operation and still family owned. Sword smiths that moved into barrel manufacturing and then into full firearms I believe.

View · by **Ghost** on Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:56 am

ex-LT wrote:
Beretta said it has no plans to relocate its office, administrative and executive support functions

Not exactly moving out of Maryland, just moving their manufacturing operations.

I believe I read they still have government contracts that have to be filled from Maryland. Eventually I suspect they will sever their Maryland ties.

View · by **JustinPo** on Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:48 am

Ghost wrote:
ex-LT wrote:
Beretta said it has no plans to relocate its office, administrative and executive support functions

Not exactly moving out of Maryland, just moving their manufacturing operations.

I believe I read they still have government contracts that have to be filled from Maryland. Eventually I suspect they will sever their Maryland ties.

They also said that any employee who wanted too could move to the new plant and implied that those that didn't would be transferred onto the existing projects (i.e. m9 production) that won't be moving. It is actually a good way to do the movings as it it lets you retain your skilled workforce and sunset everything gracefully.

View · by **Bearcatrp** on Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:20 pm

Glad to see another gun maker making the move. Did the rest all finally move out of gun restricting states? Would like to see some statistics showing what those states lost in employment from these moves.

View · by **2in2out** on Wed Jul 23, 2014 8:25 pm

No, they haven't been as fast to move as one would think.

View · by **ex-LT** on Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:29 am

2in2out wrote:No, they haven't been as fast to move as one would think.

You got that right.

Colt and Ruger are still in CT
Remington is still in NY (although they have shifted some manufacturing to their new plant in AL)
S&W is still in MA

There's probably others, but those come readily to mind.

View · by **Ironbear** on Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:19 am

2in2out wrote:No, they haven't been as fast to move as one would think.

It is rarely as easy as one would wish.

Remington bought Marlin in 2007, and moved manufacturing out of Connecticut. The resulting loss of workers experienced with those products, resulted in a huge loss of reputation for Marlin. For a while, used pre-Remington 1895's were going for more than new Remington made 1895's.

In another example, years ago I interviewed with a company that made hard drives. They told me a story of a large company that made hard drives, that decided to move their manufacturing/engineering 1/2 way across the country. Of the 70+ core engineers invited, 3 made the move. That company no longer is in the hard drive business, while the company that hired those engineers... is bigger than ever.

Despite the MBA types wishing it were otherwise, skilled labor is not completely interchangeable. Big moves tend to strip companies of workers who don't want to move, particularly those who have been there the longest ( generally the most experienced) because they have the deepest roots in the community.

I can see why a company would want to get out of state. Unfortunately, the politicians who cause it, are probably happy to see them go, overall tax income impact for the state is probably not that great, and the ones that suffer the most are the loyal employees and the community that supported the company. It doesn't seem to hurt the politicians much, and you screw over a bunch of "friends".

View · by **Bearcatrp** on Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:18 pm

Good point. Minnesota didn't lose allot of tax base losing DPMS out of st cloud. Just sucks for those losing there jobs.