9 year old girl shoots instructor with uzi

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Re: 9 year old girl shoots instructor with uzi

Postby yukonjasper on Mon Sep 01, 2014 8:52 pm

I am certainly not advocating any new laws, just some common sense. Doesn't matter what laws you have on the books, stupid people do stupid things. In this case a lot of people made stupid decisions and someone paid with his life and a little girl has a traumatic event to deal with at age 9. There is no reasonable explanation for this event. Parents, professional and proprietor are at fault.
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Re: 9 year old girl shoots instructor with uzi

Postby Ghost on Mon Sep 01, 2014 8:58 pm

xd ED wrote:Image

I was driving tractors on the road at age 9, by myself. I never even hit any mail boxes, must have been lucky.
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Re: 9 year old girl shoots instructor with uzi

Postby LePetomane on Tue Sep 02, 2014 4:02 am

ericinmn1970 wrote:I agree that the government doesn't need to step in and provide additional regulations or attempt to ban under 18 year old people from gun ranges. But having said that, I think this warrants attention. I've heard and read it said among people in the "gun community" that we need to sometimes eat our own. Where's the NRA? Our supposed champions of gun safety and education for our youth, as far as I know, haven't said a peep.


ericinmn brings up a valid point. I don't want the government stepping in either but this is how they operate. Remember Rahm Emanuel who said, "Never let a catastrophe go to waste."
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Re: 9 year old girl shoots instructor with uzi

Postby xd ED on Tue Sep 02, 2014 3:00 pm

Girl Said Uzi was Too Much for Her - KSTP.com


A 9-year-old girl who accidentally killed a shooting range instructor with an Uzi in northern Arizona had said immediately after the shooting that she felt the gun was too much for her and had hurt her shoulder, according to police reports released Tuesday.

Her family members were focused on the girl because they thought she was injured by the gun's recoil and didn't immediately realize instructor Charles Vacca had been shot until one of his colleagues ran over. . . .

. . .Prosecutors are not filing charges in the case.

County prosecutors say the instructor was probably the most criminally negligent person involved in the accident for having allowed the child to hold the gun without enough training. They also said the parents and child weren't criminally culpable.
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Re: 9 year old girl shoots instructor with uzi

Postby 2in2out on Tue Sep 02, 2014 9:18 pm

In aviation, they/we have what is referred to as an accident chain. I think that fits here. At any point, the chain can be broken and tragedy averted.
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Re: 9 year old girl shoots instructor with uzi

Postby 20mm on Fri Sep 05, 2014 9:45 am

xd ED wrote:
20mm wrote:I'd say you almost have to have the gun fixed to allow an inexperienced/weak/bad shooter handle it. You might as well put and angry cat in a box and expect the range officer to be able to handle it.


Yeah. because firearms and aggressive animals both have violent instincts.


Wow, you found a fault in my analogy. That's not very surprising considering it was an analogy, but congratulations anyway.

UZI's and other small automatic weapons are not easily controlled by instructors.

You can see that in this video when the instructor looses his grip:

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