Betsy

[Hmac]

Here's what the illustrious mayor of Minneapolis has been up to. I'm surprised she's not wearing her hijab. I can't get out of Minnesota fast enough. Three and one half years and counting.
http://kstp.com/news/stories/S3612199.shtml?cat=1

BFD. Your constant whining about Minnesota makes it seem like this state has some kind of lock on stupid politicians.

[LePetomane]

Here's what the illustrious mayor of Minneapolis has been up to. I'm surprised she's not wearing her hijab. I can't get out of Minnesota fast enough. Three and one half years and counting.
http://kstp.com/news/stories/S3612199.shtml?cat=1

BFD. Your constant whining about Minnesota makes it seem like this state has some kind of lock on stupid politicians.

Dude, where were you last Tuesday? The rest of the country and even parts of this state threw out the democrats because they did not like the direction that the country was going. However some people in this state, regardless of how they feel cannot bear to vote against their precious DFL party that seems to have a lock on Minnesota politics and politicians be they elected or appointed. It is a very intimidating political force and those who have not been elsewhere fail to see that.

This last election does give me a feeling that there is hope for some in this state because the house changed hands. Many of the districts that threw out the DFL'ers were ones that also elected Peterson. What that tells me is that he represented his district well and the people there voted on issues rather than a popularity contest. Also I don't think Franken or Dayton can BS those people either. The problem is that they are outnumbered by the passionate happy faced types in the Twin Cities who pine for the good old days when the DFL ruled with an iron fist and no one dared to challenge them.

I'd be curious to see the response that politicians like Dayton and Franken would get in western states like Idaho where I have a second home. Those people would see through them in a heartbeat.

[MJY65]

BFD. Your constant whining about Minnesota makes it seem like this state has some kind of lock on stupid politicians.

We may not have all of the stupid politicians, but we seem to elect them with alarming consistency even when most of the country seems to be going the other way.

[Hmac]

BFD. Your constant whining about Minnesota makes it seem like this state has some kind of lock on stupid politicians.

We may not have all of the stupid politicians, but we seem to elect them with alarming consistency even when most of the country seems to be going the other way.

I certainly don't disagree with that, but it doesn't make me continually carp about how desperately I want to leave this f&*^$# state. You never know when you'll be jumping out of the frying pan into the fire. Ten years ago, I certainly thought that Colorado would be a safe place to move and protect my gun rights. And I never would have thought that Minnesota's firearms environment would be less restrictive than that of Texas.

[LePetomane]

I could see the Colorado situation coming a while ago. The ski areas were taken over by the Hollywood types and it was just a matter of time before they brought their politics with them. Now the people are wising up but the cat is out of the bag. I see Montana being next.

Two places that come to mind are Idaho and Wyoming, as long as one stays away from Jackson. A lot of the Hollywood types have left Idaho as it was not cool enough for them. Those remaining don't make a lot of noise. There are a lot of liberal trust funder types in Jackson but the rest of the state does not give them an audience like the state of Montana gives Turner so they keep quiet.

I sold my place in Idaho because it would have been too remote for a retirement home. I'm looking at a place in Wyoming that's less off the beaten path that's close to good fishing and hunting.

[Hmac]

Who wants to base their place of residence entirely on the politics of the state and the stupidity of its politicians? That whole landscape can change in a matter of one election. For me, current stupidity would be on the list, but way down from the top, way below family, friends, job, recreation, cost of living, cultural access. I wouldn't be the slightest bit interested in Montana/Idaho/Wyoming as a place to live.

[MJY65]

Who wants to base their place of residence entirely on the politics of the state and the stupidity of its politicians? That whole landscape can change in a matter of one election. For me, current stupidity would be on the list, but way down from the top, way below family, friends, job, recreation, cost of living, cultural access. I wouldn't be the slightest bit interested in Montana/Idaho/Wyoming as a place to live.

I don't see anyone suggesting that politics is the sole criteria. In fact, I suspect that many stay around until the other reasons you mentioned become less of a factor with age. Second, politics can have a major influence on those other factors, good or bad. I wouldn't base a move on a single election either, but MN has a decades long history of voting liberal and it seems to be getting worse. When was the last time MN went for a Republican President? I'm not going anywhere right now due to some of the reasons you listed, but I'd sure consider it down the road. With the demographic changes taking place, it won't be too long before my views will not matter any more as Hennepin and Ramsey counties steamroll the rest of the state.

[Snakeman721]

Politics plays a real role in where one wants to live, not only on gun rights but taxation is a big thing too. When you retire, do you still want to be here in MN paying these high income taxes on your 401K, SS and any pension? There are a few states that do NOT tax retirement benies or tax SOME of them at far lower rates than MN. Sure makes it easier to stretch out that fixed income over the month. Also, you really, really, really got to like winter to stay here, and I for one...am sick of snow and cold. 4 more years, then off to TN, AZ, OK or TX.....somewhere that ain't as cold, won't try to take my guns and won't constantly have their hands in both of my pockets stealing what I've earned for the last 40 years.

[LePetomane]

Politics play a huge role in choosing an area for retirement. As Snakeman stated, I've worked too hard to accumulate retirement funds to have Dayton and his merry men continue to have their grubby hands in my pockets. The hunting and fishing are better in Wyoming as is the weather in the area that I am looking at. No state income tax, low property taxes, decent cost of living. Go west, young (or old) man!

[Grayskies]

I was watching the channel 5 news you can get on a smart internet blu-ray, and they had joe soucheray interviewing the reporter for this story, Joe thinks they were just pointing at each other.

[LePetomane]

I was watching the channel 5 news you can get on a smart internet blu-ray, and they had joe soucheray interviewing the reporter for this story, Joe thinks they were just pointing at each other.

He's probably right but I think that a mayor should put herself above being "cool" and show some leadership. This woman has shown us nothing but appeasement.

[Grayskies]

I was watching the channel 5 news you can get on a smart internet blu-ray, and they had joe soucheray interviewing the reporter for this story, Joe thinks they were just pointing at each other.

He's probably right but I think that a mayor should put herself above being "cool" and show some leadership. This woman has shown us nothing but appeasement.

I think Joe is right, were I disagree is that she is the mayor and should be held to a higher standard of conduct. As mayor she should lead by example and not be flashing hand signs that would get a school kid expelled.

I also would agree that the police gang unit is probably over reacting some, dealing with gangs all the time they would be more aware of the signs. Though I think she has earned some animosity and that may be adding to the police reaction.

[LarryP]

Why is he allowed to have a face book page??????

[Grayskies]

Why is he allowed to have a face book page??????

Link please

[LarryP]

It's in the article in the first post


5 EYEWITNESS NEWS was alerted to the photo by law enforcement after they discovered the photo on the man's Facebook page while doing investigative work. Several law enforcement sources in separate agencies tell us they were outraged when they saw the photo and say the sign the mayor is flashing is known to be the sign of a gang on the city's North side.