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Re: Doctors Asking Parents about gun ownership

Postby Randygmn on Wed Dec 03, 2014 8:08 am

The anti gun, would be confiscators have been trying to get the CDC involved I. The gun debate for the past 25 years. Since Bloomberg has made this his life work, they have constantly been framing the debate as a "public health crisis". Don't forget, the CDC and their agenda falls under the purview of the President. We may not know precisely how they intend to infringe our rights by taking this path, but why help them? I have never been asked that question. If I'm asked on a form, I'll say no, for sure. If a doctor ever asks me that, I'll either say no or if I'm in a bad mood, I'll ask him if he's ever put his penis inside anyone other than his wife. You know, in the interest of public safety, hygiene and ethics.
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Re: Doctors Asking Parents about gun ownership

Postby Hmac on Wed Dec 03, 2014 8:15 am

Randygmn wrote:. If a doctor ever asks me that, I'll either say no or if I'm in a bad mood, I'll ask him if he's ever put his penis inside anyone other than his wife. You know, in the interest of public safety, hygiene and ethics.


We all love to fantasize, don't we?

Just say "no". It will lead to a much more productive doctor/patient encounter and is less likely to leave you looking for a new doctor.
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Re: Doctors Asking Parents about gun ownership

Postby jgalt on Wed Dec 03, 2014 8:55 am

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jgalt wrote:The only answer that makes sense is a straight-faced "No".

Anything else will result in either nothing (if the doc really doesn't care about the question and is simply "following orders") or a notation that won't be any different than if you answered "yes".

That is my opinion on it. Plus when I've seen the question asked it's usually "Do you own a gun" and the answer is no. As I own many guns ;) .

Also another good answer is "heaven's no" while bringing your open hand to your chest and inhaling with your mouth wide open in an aghast fashion.


I haven't had to do it yet, but that's a bit like my planned response to anyone I'm not sure would be OK with me carrying if I am asked. Look startled & a bit worried / scared, then ask, "why, do you think I should be?" or "why, do you think I need one?"

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Re: Doctors Asking Parents about gun ownership

Postby Erud on Wed Dec 03, 2014 9:09 am

Hmac wrote:
Randygmn wrote:. If a doctor ever asks me that, I'll either say no or if I'm in a bad mood, I'll ask him if he's ever put his penis inside anyone other than his wife. You know, in the interest of public safety, hygiene and ethics.


We all love to fantasize, don't we?

Just say "no". It will lead to a much more productive doctor/patient encounter and is less likely to leave you looking for a new doctor.



Yes we do. This is how it usually plays out in my fantasy:

Doctor: "Do you own a gun?"

Me: as I pull my Desert Eagle out of my tactical drop-leg holster and press it against his temple: "You mean like this one, mathafacky?!? It's my constitutional right, so what you gonna do about it?!?"

Doctor: After wetting his pants and crying for a little while, says: "Sir, I have seen the error of my ways. I see now that I have wronged you by infringing on your God-given rights. I swear to you I will stop at the nearest gun show on my way home and buy as many guns as I can obtain through the gun show loophole. You have shown me what it truly means to be a free man and a great American - thank you."

Me: Let that be a lesson to you.


I think if we all took this approach we would really start to see a change in the way the medical field viewed guns and their owners.
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Re: Doctors Asking Parents about gun ownership

Postby brad3579 on Wed Dec 03, 2014 9:19 am

lol
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Re: Doctors Asking Parents about gun ownership

Postby Hmac on Wed Dec 03, 2014 9:31 am

Erud wrote:
Doctor: "Do you own a gun?"

Me: as I pull my Desert Eagle out of my tactical drop-leg holster and press it against his temple: "You mean like this one, mathafacky?!? It's my constitutional right, so what you gonna do about it?!?"

Doctor: After wetting his pants and crying for a little while, says: "Sir, I have seen the error of my ways. I see now that I have wronged you by infringing on your God-given rights. I swear to you I will stop at the nearest gun show on my way home and buy as many guns as I can obtain through the gun show loophole. You have shown me what it truly means to be a free man and a great American - thank you."

Me: Let that be a lesson to you.


I think if we all took this approach we would really start to see a change in the way the medical field viewed guns and their owners.


LOL. It is true though, the childish fantasy responses people dream up to that question from their doctor certainly don't do much to impress anyone with the reasonableness of gun rights advocates.
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Re: Doctors Asking Parents about gun ownership

Postby LePetomane on Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:28 am

With the government getting so involved in medical care it is only a matter of time before they use it as a portal into our private lives if they are not using it already.

Answering office staff in a disrespectful manner does us as law abiding firearm owners no good at all. They are mandated by the nanny state to ask these questions. Give them their due and move on.
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Re: Doctors Asking Parents about gun ownership

Postby MJY65 on Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:05 am

jgalt wrote:The only answer that makes sense is a straight-faced "No".

Anything else will result in either nothing (if the doc really doesn't care about the question and is simply "following orders") or a notation that won't be any different than if you answered "yes".


Agreed. These threads are on many gun forums and are full of supposedly clever or rude responses. You are not compelled to answer the question honestly, so why stir the pot?
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Re: Doctors Asking Parents about gun ownership

Postby Bessy on Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:22 am

So I was actually asked about firearm ownership at OMC (Clinic) in rochester about 5 years ago.



The conversation when like this.

Doctor: "Do you own a firearm?"
Me "A singular firearm... no...... I own several"
Doctor: "That's a major health concern for you. You need to ensure they are locked up, and that your children don't have access to them...never keep them loaded, don't drink when you have access to firearms. If you show any signs of depression seek immediate help, and remove of any guns you own"
Me "Doc, did you know that being obese leads to an increased risk of heat attack?:
Doctor : **looks at me confused**
Me: "I read a pamphlet on heart disease once I figured you might not know."
Doctor : **looks even more confused**
Me: "I moonlight as a firearms safety instructor".
Doctor : *laughing*.... "Point taken...."

I spend the majority of my free time reloading/shooting and I volunteer and teach firearm safety/orientation classes for my local club. I'm an NRA certified instructor blah blah...
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Re: Doctors Asking Parents about gun ownership

Postby Ghost on Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:23 am

MJY65 wrote:
jgalt wrote:The only answer that makes sense is a straight-faced "No".

Anything else will result in either nothing (if the doc really doesn't care about the question and is simply "following orders") or a notation that won't be any different than if you answered "yes".


Agreed. These threads are on many gun forums and are full of supposedly clever or rude responses. You are not compelled to answer the question honestly, so why stir the pot?

People generally say things on the internet that they won't say when they leave the basement and go out in public.
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Re: Doctors Asking Parents about gun ownership

Postby The Famous Grouse on Thu Dec 04, 2014 9:04 pm

Ron Burgundy wrote:To the collective group - why wouldn't you answer the question honestly?

My Dr asked me when I asked to have my lead levels checked. It was a very pleasant conversation about the shooting sports. Based on his interest, he may even one day go shooting himself or at least not think of gun owners as weirdos.

Look at the growth of new shooters over the last few years. We're growing. It is not taboo to own guns.


I have to agree. It's a "so what" question to me. Doctors ask about a lot of stuff, smoking, drinking, sex life, guns, rock and roll, so what?

The implication when this originally did the rounds was that it was some top secret way for Obam to build a list of gun owners. Bad news folks. Most gun owners have already volunteered to join a gun registry and did so willingly.

Whaaaat? Voluntarily join a gun registry? No way, you say?

Ummm. Ever bought a hunting license? If it was for a firearms hunting season, congratulations, you just put you name on a gun registry. :shock: Common sense, really. Firearms deer license = gun owner.

So why would I care if my doctor asked about it?

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Re: Doctors Asking Parents about gun ownership

Postby Grayskies on Thu Dec 04, 2014 9:16 pm

The Famous Grouse wrote:
Ron Burgundy wrote:To the collective group - why wouldn't you answer the question honestly?

My Dr asked me when I asked to have my lead levels checked. It was a very pleasant conversation about the shooting sports. Based on his interest, he may even one day go shooting himself or at least not think of gun owners as weirdos.

Look at the growth of new shooters over the last few years. We're growing. It is not taboo to own guns.


I have to agree. It's a "so what" question to me. Doctors ask about a lot of stuff, smoking, drinking, sex life, guns, rock and roll, so what?

The implication when this originally did the rounds was that it was some top secret way for Obam to build a list of gun owners. Bad news folks. Most gun owners have already volunteered to join a gun registry and did so willingly.

Whaaaat? Voluntarily join a gun registry? No way, you say?

Ummm. Ever bought a hunting license? If it was for a firearms hunting season, congratulations, you just put you name on a gun registry. :shock: Common sense, really. Firearms deer license = gun owner.

So why would I care if my doctor asked about it?

Grouse

Because your health insurance company would know about it, and they could raise your rates. Also some of us do not hunt.
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Doctors Asking Parents about gun ownership

Postby Ron Burgundy on Thu Dec 04, 2014 10:01 pm

Grayskies wrote:
The Famous Grouse wrote:
Ron Burgundy wrote:To the collective group - why wouldn't you answer the question honestly?

My Dr asked me when I asked to have my lead levels checked. It was a very pleasant conversation about the shooting sports. Based on his interest, he may even one day go shooting himself or at least not think of gun owners as weirdos.

Look at the growth of new shooters over the last few years. We're growing. It is not taboo to own guns.


I have to agree. It's a "so what" question to me. Doctors ask about a lot of stuff, smoking, drinking, sex life, guns, rock and roll, so what?

The implication when this originally did the rounds was that it was some top secret way for Obam to build a list of gun owners. Bad news folks. Most gun owners have already volunteered to join a gun registry and did so willingly.

Whaaaat? Voluntarily join a gun registry? No way, you say?

Ummm. Ever bought a hunting license? If it was for a firearms hunting season, congratulations, you just put you name on a gun registry. :shock: Common sense, really. Firearms deer license = gun owner.

So why would I care if my doctor asked about it?

Grouse

Because your health insurance company would know about it, and they could raise your rates. Also some of us do not hunt.

Wut? If your insurance company wanted to raise your rates based on gun ownership they would ask you directly - not through a Dr.
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Re: Doctors Asking Parents about gun ownership

Postby Grayskies on Thu Dec 04, 2014 10:08 pm

Insurance companies don't have to ask anyone, they have access to your medical records for billing purposes.

Doesn't matter though, the only time your doctor needs know is if you are shooting enough to need your lead level tested or you NDed into your leg/foot or other body part like the below fire arms expert.

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Re: Doctors Asking Parents about gun ownership

Postby Countryfried Frank on Fri Dec 05, 2014 12:50 pm

I was asked by my former doctor once after not answering on the form. I told him that wasn't his business. He went ahead and chewed me out and claimed it was his business when he had to come in to the emergency room because I accidentally shot myself or someone else. I let him know I was a responsible husband and father and I would seek counsel from someone qualified to give it if I had any questions about firearms. I never did go back there.

It hasn't come up since I've been in Texas.
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